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I've had guys walk up and tell me we're cheating. That's why I carry a pistol. 
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Not everyone is looking at this right. You don't have to sell it. Keep doing what you are doing on this forum.
I had BIAB about 8 years ago, and the midi sound drove me away... rather quickly. Two weeks ago I wanted to check it out again. The newer YouTube samples, and the fact that this is an active forum is all it took for me. This software with realband is the future.
Cheating? So is cruise control and that tool has saved me a fortune in tickets.
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As far as changing the interface, I don't think PG has to be as drastic as some of the above posts suggest. Afterall, doesn't a DAW have a crazy amount of buttons? I simply don't see this software as being for a casual user, so not much point in making things overly clean.
The real change that PG needs to make is get rid of the ComicSans like font for chords. Hate it. I suspect that font alone sends so many (below age 45) away. The good news is that a guy from Germany appears to be helping resolve that.
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Yes, we look forward to that new font. But, just checking, do you know that BIAB allows you several options in the choice of fonts, particularly as of version 2016?
Comic Sans is so interesting in how polarizing it is! I've even seen it on resumes (not what I would have recommended).
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Hi Matt, thanks for making sure; Yes I did find it eventually. But it was more than one click away. But boy was I motivated to change it.
Even I am surprised at how strongly I feel about disliking the font. I suspect that most here are used to it, but the ComicSans font is the subject of so much scorn. Google 'ComicSans Failblog'
That issue aside, it is a great product, and you guys with history add a lot to it.
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A wise variation on that old saw about the unsolvable engine problem where they finally call in the expert. He makes one tap of the hammer which fixes it and presents his bill for $10,000. They complain, "All you did is one little tap of the hammer!" and he says, "Yes, but I knew where to tap".
A similar yarn about a banker who locked himself out of the vault. He called a locksmith, who, after a few moments of looking & studying the door, gave it an mighty hit with a sledge hammer, and the vault door swung open. He presented the banker with a bill for $500.00. "$500.00 for 5 minutes work, that's ridiculous!" sai the banker, "Give me an itiemised account." The locksmith handed over an invoice, which read: Hitting the vault door with sledge hammer..................... $10.00 Knowing where to hit the vault door with sledge hammer.....$490.00
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Dear Fellow BIAB-ers,
I usually try and employ a refined and aristocratic response when I hear jabberwocky of this ilk.
First I usually say something like "Take off you hoser! You know you're a hoser, eh? And worse than, you're nothing but a Hosehead!!"
If that doesn't work, I will ask to hear something THEY recorded all by themselves. When it is done, I will say "Who recorded THAT--your grandma or your stoned uncle?"
If they are still arguing that Real Tracks are cheating at that point, I will pass them an acoustic and ask them to play something.
Then I will take it back from them and I will play something.
The conversation usually stops right there and they crawl away.
Hope that helps.
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another facet to this question is the demographic. We automatically assume that musicians will like BIAB more than the rest of the population.. yet it's typically musicians who feel threatened by it.
I mentioned it recently on an animation forum, because they have a need for music they can use without worrying about copyright infringement. The responses were quite favorable... in fact, I saw NO negative comments whatsoever! Several people said they would look into it!
People who need music, but who aren't able to play it themselves seem to like the idea of generated music. So... a heads-up to PGMusic's marketing folks: don't limit your ads to musicians. Focus on people who produce content in other media, and who need music for their projects. Animators, Indie video producers, advertisers etc are all potential customers.
In case you want to target these groups, Here's a list of animation software that has a loyal following... all of whom need music:
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Smith Micro: Poser, Anime Studio / MOHO
Digimania: Muvizu
Reallusion: iClone, Crazy Talk Animator
ToonBoom: Harmony
Autodesk: MAYA, 3DS MAX, Sketchbook Pro, Mudbox
Adobe: Flash
GoAnimate
Blender
FlipBook
Cinema 4D
programs used by Indie film makers:
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Adobe : Premiere, After Effects
Hit Film
Other software used by people who also need Music
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3D-Coat
Z-Brush
Mari
Game Creation software
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Unity
Unreal
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