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Holy Cow, just trying to follow this tread is confusing. crazy


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Originally Posted By: PeterGannon
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))) Because on this page, http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.ultra.htm , it shows 2016 UltraPlusPAK contains 150 MIDI SuperTracks but it shows 2017 UltraPlusPAK contains 175+ MIDI SuperTrack

Most (30/34) of the new MIDI Supertracks are only contained in the Bonus 49-Pak . This is 34 MIDI Supertracks. The total number of MIDI Supertracks including every possible source is 203. So the Ultra has 203-34 = 169 MIDI Supertracks.

The list of the 34 MIDI Supertracks found in the bonus 49-Pak are here
http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.bonuspaks_2017.htm (Note that of that 34, four are also included in the free bonus pak with 2017, and the other 30 are unique to the 49-Pak)

Summary: getting the 2017 UltraPak* and Bonus 49-Pak gets you:
- all 203 MIDI SuperTracks that we have made.
- (It also gets you all the Realtracks and RealDrums that we have made.
- it gives you a huge number of Realstyles (thousands, I don't have that count handy),
- it doesn't get you the Xtra styles, which are about 300 Realstyles using existing RealTracks - those are sold separately as Xtra stylePak 1 and 2 ($49 for both, or $29 each during the special in December 2016.)

*2017UltraPlusPak, EverythingPak, 2017PlusPak or Audiophile, these are described and can be purchased here http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.htm


Peter, thank you for trying to help me but I must not be explaining myself well because this does not answer my question. You are adding the Bonus 49-Pak in the answer and I am not asking about that!

Let me try again and for this question let's please leave all add-ons aside...

On this page, http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.ultra.htm , you show this,


This shows 2016 UltraPlusPAK as having 150 MIDI SuperTracks and 2017 UltraPlusPAK as having 175+ MIDI SuperTracks. That would mean 2017 has more than 25 additional/new MIDI SuperTracks than 2016.

Then, on this page, http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.htm , you show this,


This shows the $149 upgrade has 175+ MIDI SuperTracks but it shows the $99 upgrade as having no MIDI SuperTracks.

My original question was whether, for someone who already has 2016 UltraPlusPAK, do the $99 upgrade and the $149 upgrade both deliver the complete set of files and features? And based on these web pages it appears the $99 upgrade is missing 25+ MIDI SuperTracks.

Is this just a typo on the website or is this actually how this works?

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jjj,

There are no MST in the $99 package.

Since you state that
"I just checked and it says I have 180 MIDI SuperTracks currently."

You are in good shape, as you have 180 already. If you want more, the only source is the bonus 49-pak


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Originally Posted By: PeterGannon
jjj,

There are no MST in the $99 package.

Since you state that
"I just checked and it says I have 180 MIDI SuperTracks currently."

You are in good shape, as you have 180 already. If you want more, the only source is the bonus 49-pak

Thanks Peter. So there ARE new MST in the $149 upgrade package?

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Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn

Thanks Peter. So there ARE new MST in the $149 upgrade package?


JJJ, the 99$ package plus the 49$ bonus package is the 148$ page. I bought exactly that... How hard is this? crazy


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Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn

Thanks Peter. So there ARE new MST in the $149 upgrade package?


JJJ, the 99$ package plus the 49$ bonus package is the 148$ page.

Not true! I am referring to the $149 upgrade on a hard drive vs. the $99 upgrade on DVDs! And like I keep saying I AM NOT ASKING ABOUT THE $49 BONUS PAK!!!! It has NOTHING to do with my question!

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then you question has been answered, No MST in that...


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))) So there ARE new MST in the $149 upgrade package?

No. You are in good shape, as you have 180 MST already. If you want more, the only source is the bonus 49-pak. So you should get the $99 pak, and not get the $149 pak.


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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
then you question has been answered, No MST in that...

No because PG assured me both the $99 and the $149 upgrades are identical. Clearly they are not! Or, the website is incorrect.

Earlier in the week the website claimed 364 new styles in both StylePaks and a PG person I was chatting with assured me this was correct until I pointed out that 164 + 161 does not equal 364! So they fixed that on the website right away.

I'm just trying to send them my money and figure out how to do so in a way that I don't pay for things twice or miss out on something.

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Originally Posted By: PeterGannon
))) So there ARE new MST in the $149 upgrade package?

No. You are in good shape, as you have 180 MST already. If you want more, the only source is the bonus 49-pak. So you should get the $99 pak, and not get the $149 pak.

Thanks Peter. So there are no new MST in either the $99 upgrade or the $149 upgrade (even though the website shows 2017 having 25+ more than 2016!)

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>>> Thanks Peter. So there are no new MST in either the $99 upgrade or the $149 upgrade (even though the website shows 2017 having 25+ more than 2016!)


Correct.


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