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This is very cool, thank you for sharing. I've been intrigued by how well (and how badly!) samplers imitate real instruments for a long time now -- sometimes the worst results are the coolest in the long run! It's interesting how much work the author puts into emulating the lead guitar -- something as simple as vibrato represents a really sizable synthesis and sampling challenge.
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And then there is what you can do with a classical guitar, detuned and then lead line played on same guitar. I did this as an experiment some years back as part of the February Album Writing Month. Guitar was a $150 solid cedar top 'valencia' model which really digs being tuned down significantly. Pickup came in the guitar from a company called Shadow. The bass line, rhythm guitar and lead were all that Valencia model. The wah was a freebie VST from GSi. https://soundcloud.com/rockstar_not/detuned-rockstar_notI think I tuned down to C or C#, can't remember - this was several years ago. The GSi was called Effectizer, available still for free in GSi's legacy-ware page: http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=37
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I remember Craig's first band in Philly: “Mandrake Memorial”. Great band. He's been doing synths since the 60's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandrake_MemorialRegards, Bob
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Craig Anderton used to have a column in Guitar Player magazine back in the day, also he did a book "Electronic Projects for Musicians" which I used to own.
I built lots of his projects back in the 80's, my day job then was an Electronic Technician.
Very cool guy!
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Craig Anderton used to have a column in Guitar Player magazine back in the day, also he did a book "Electronic Projects for Musicians" which I used to own.
I built lots of his projects back in the 80's, my day job then was an Electronic Technician.
Very cool guy! I wondered if this was the same guy. I did the same as you with exception of making electronics my day job. He had some good, quality projects. Charlie
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He has many books available through ++ Amazon ++ . He also writes a monthly Sonar column for the UK edition of Sound-On-Sound magazine in addition to the articles for Harmony Central. ++ PAIA ++ stills sells the electronic project book for musicians along with part kits including circuit boards. Craig Anderton is also a consulting vice president for Gibson helping Gibson figure out what's the future of music. He advised Gibson on the acquisitions of Teac/Tascam and Cakewalk. He's also a representative and advisor to the Midi.org foundation. Craig Anderton is a man that wears many hats and wears them well.
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I've been a fan of Craig Anderton for a long time. Back in the late 70's I had a little 4 track studio (Tascam 40-4) in my house. I really liked the DIY attitude that he showed in Electronic Projects for Musicians. Still think of some of the ideas I read there and elsewhere for making certain sounds...
Which brings me to this question (sorry if it should have been posted in another thread, or a new thread...):
I'd like to record samples of a tankdrum (made from a LP gas cylinder) so that I can use it in recordings. As it is, the notes aren't quite in tune. So I'm looking for a software sampler that will allow me to record individual notes, then clean them up and play them back with a MIDI keyboard. If you know what I mean?
If you remember the old Casio keyboard of 30 years ago (SK-1?) that let you record a sound and then play it back with any key?... That's essentially what I'd like to do, but with a software sampler instead.
I've dowloaded several samplers, but frankly, they all work differently and I'd like some advice first before getting into that.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks!
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Use any sampler to capture the sound and then use the software program melodyne to pitch correct and convert the audio to midi.
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I believe the player that ships with 2017 Band-in-a-Box accepts samples. The player is primarily used to play the Hi-Q instrument patches. ++ TX16WX ++ is a sampler many people like.
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Thanks so much for responding, Charlie and Jim...
I'm not real savvy on samplers, so that was the reason for the query. But I'm glad to hear that the new 2017 BIAB has something that may be helpful. It's actually a lot of extra work to make these samples, not knowing how they will sound. But this tankdrum my son-in-law plays sounds beautiful... it just isn't quite in tune and the bell-like quality of the sounds can vary a great deal in volume as well as pitch.
I appreciate the mention of the TX16WX sampler, Jim. I've already downloaded it and have started to read about it, but not actually use it, yet. There are a few others that I've downloaded that I want to read about, too, before I get too involved in one of them.
I also appreciate the mention of the Melodyne program, Charlie. I got a limited version for free when I bought the Tracktion DAW software, but never used much. Now I may have my chance!
Thanks again, for your help. I'll try to let you know how it turns out. Might be awhile, though, as the learning curve is a little steep for an old man like me! lol
Jim
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A feature I just learned of last night that I've never used but watched a demonstration on YouTube that you may want to try is in the Audacity program. Located in the Effects Menu - Pitch Correction. I was impressed with the sound and quality of a guy changing "all my rowdy friends.." by Hank Williams Jr. from the key of C to the key of A.
He simply imported the song into Audacity, selected the entire song, opened the effect and ran the effect and Audacity did an admirable job in my opinion. For tuning, that may be an easier and faster option for you.
If you don't have Audacity, it is a free download and a great software program to have for audio.
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Thanks for the good idea, Charlie! I do have Audacity and use it often as my "editing" app for Reaper. But I didn't know about that little trick! Have to try that. Audacity surely is a great program for being free. I love it.
I like to use it when I convert LP records to digital. It makes it easy to get rid of most of the crackles and pops on a recording.
Thanks again, Charlie! Hope you have a great day!
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As for samplers, welcome to the club as they are new to me too. That's one of the reason I suggested TX16WX as it has very good documentation. I'm looking forward to learning how to use it.
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Jim,
I tried to use TX16WX but after installing it, my DAW (Reaper) would no longer load. So I had to go back and uninstall all of the newest plugins I had. Finally got it to work again and put all but TX16WX back on. Still working. Not sure what the problem might be, but I did manage to install one called Shortcircuit, that didn't shut down Reaper. (Reaper seems to be easily crashed... I usually have it crash at least once every session. Luckily, it's usually not while I'm recording.) Sure glad that Band In A Box is more stable than that! I might have to try using Realband as a DAW instead, as someone else suggested.
Please let us know how you do with the TX16WX sampler. I may just have to use an old laptop as a standalone sampler computer if it appears to be a good program.
Thanks for all your help!
g33zrj1m
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