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I think what it is Ray, is Notes is somewhat like myself in that I prefer playing all jazz all the time but I do a lot of commercial gigs where the jazz is mostly first set dinner stuff, after that it's dancing. Dancing is of course all covers and we both want the tunes to sound pretty much like the record and Real Drums don't work too well for that. Take simple classic R & R like Jailhouse Rock or Johnny B Goode. How do you get RD's to do those punches? Or basic blues stuff that has similar punches? RD's are great for the 90% of a tune that's just groovin along but transistions, bridges, endings all that stuff that makes a song unique just isn't happening with RD's.
All the jazz tunes have that stuff going on too, it's just that most jazz bands I play with don't rehearse so we just jam everything. When you listen to the original recordings you hear tunes like Joy Spring have a ton of punches, stops, little licks that should be there during the head that nobody plays because nobody around here rehearses. Jordu, Well You Needn't, lots of others. Listen to the heads, there's a bunch of neat little punches going on. RD's are no help for that kind of thing but if you just want to groove along, they're great.
It's a lot of work to program Biab to do that stuff even with midi and most of the time the RT/RD's are good enough and a lot of fun. Now, if we can just get that new cool A.I. thing going...

Bob



Very well said. Especially, that part about "...most jazz bands I play with don't rehearse".. Exactly my experience. Not that that is a problem. Its just nature of Jazz. It likes to be fresh and creative. Thats why it tends to be played at the dinner hour. The masses do like for tunes to sound familar so the dance sets do have to have those, licks and hits that make the song recognizable as it was originally played.

Good thread guys.

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