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Hello fellow BIAB users.

I am thinking about upgrading to 2017.

How do you guys like or dislike new edition?

THANKS!!

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OMG, the sale may be over in hours if they don't extend it into the new year.

I upgraded from 2016 (however, I upgrade every year). But I am liking it. I think the biggest new item is the GUI which is working out very nice for me.


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Cool. Sale ends soon so I better make up my mind:) LOL

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Does the sale end on Dec 31 or is it on sale through Dec 31?

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"on sale through Dec 31?"

Yes according to PG.

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Thank u!

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The new user interface is sensational. Well laid out and practical.
Together with all of the other new features, it's an easy decision to make. Go for it, you know you want to wink


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No dislikes here at all .. BEST version YET!


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I've had some minor issues, but I have to agree with the others: this is the best one yet. The new interface is much more professional looking, easy to understand, and leaves more space on the page for music rather than icons.

The new realtracks that they've put together from parts of other realtracks are a stroke of genious. (Check out "Cello Apocolypse"... I think that's the name. Sounds like those cello and guitar metal bands!)

I also love the fact that they're including more ethnic styles. They can really liven up a mediocre track.

So, yes... get it! Money well spent!

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The overall improvement in the sound of the styles and individual instruments is my favorite thing about 2017 BIAB. The piano comping in the jazz styles is a noticeable improvement. BIAB moves closer to the real thing. Oh, it really is the real deal!

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I wasn't going to upgrade as it wasn't 64-bit... but I came to my senses and did it, and I couldn't be happier with the outcome.

So just do it! Your won't be sorry!

HTH,

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The new GUI is the best new feature IMHO. It is extremely well thought out. Also I am finding the BiaB loads a lot quicker on all three of my computers. Has anyone else noticed this?


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Yes, I have noticed the quicker loading. This 2017 update is, in my opinion, the best since 2008 (RealTracks).


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Thanks for all of your input!!!

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I voiced some constructive criticism about the new horn-oriented realtracks, but now that thread seems to be missing.

I was able to find it by doing a google search "site:pgmusic fence" and pulling up the cached entry.

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Let me say that I gravitate towards the jazz offerings. So the Hawaiian, house, rap, country, celtic, rock, etc. are not my focus. Also, I do understand the interface has improved/advanced - but my perspective is what comes out of the speakers is king and the buttons or screens to get to that point can be sub-optimal as long as what I hear as an end-result is pleasing. Yes, there may be some improvements here (more time doubling options, etc) - but I am mainly focused on the "core" sound of the real tracks (new content). Even the gypsy jazz is a bit limited.

[deleted portion which made the moderator get off track]

Mittens Jazz w/3 saxes - sounds "off" (https://youtu.be/d6Ru_aWsVIM?t=265).

Flute/tenor bossa - Tenor sounds like a strange phasing at end of long-tone. Overall blending of the horns is "off". This is judging by the demo - which should strive to pick a "best of" clip. (https://youtu.be/d6Ru_aWsVIM?t=485).

Anyone else sensing like the latest jazz-oriented ("straight ahead") styles are sounding more robotic than the past real tracks?

[deleted side-note which was not a comment about 2017]

2017, even with all the other improvements - I'm more focused on the new realtracks would would potentially fit into my use."

My overall impression was that the demos of the new styles made the new styles I was interested sound more "thrown together" than the previous 2016 content which, although not perfect, was still an improvement in the evolutionary sense.


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Jason,
With the crooner styles, there is a 10 piece big band style that we make. And that's the one that people use, and it is very tight, and in general people love them.

Just to show flexibility, we also make some variation "utility" styles that just use single instruments, and we maybe have two instruments total in th style - obviously not a big band, and obviously not an arrangement. Those play completely independantly, so they are not tight.

So you've listened to the wrong demos. And you're pointing people to the wrong demos. You've listened to these "utility" styles and come to the conclusion that this is what the bigband sounds like. It would be like listening to to something with two members of the Basey big band playing, and concluding that this is what the basey big band sounds like.

If you want to know what the normal crooner Bossa and ballad big band sounds like, here you go...

Crooner Ballad BigBand http://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/audio/realtracksdemos/2792band.m4a _BLIZARD.sty or _WINTER.sty style
Crooner Bossa BigBand http://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/audio/realtracksdemos/2781band.m4a _GOLDEN.sty


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Looks like the links in Peter's post are broken:(

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Typo in link fixed..., try again!


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Thanks. they sound very good indeed:)!

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I like the new GUI choice, but we've lost an important element, at least to me: The main screen now only shows how many choruses are in the song, not the addition of which chorus you are currently in. I know that it shows this at the top of the screen, but that is too light and small to see on a gig.

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