|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 21
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 21 |
I'm exporting separate tracks (WAV files) that I will import into a DAW for mixing/processing. What steps do I need to take to ensure that the tracks come out of BiaB with the best possible quality? What BiaB audio/MIDI settings are important? Anything in particular that I need to be aware of or pay close attention to? Would this process be any different for a MIDI track vs a RealTrack and/or RealDrums? If using only RealTracks, does the MIDI setup matter at all?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,341
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,341 |
Welcome to the forum.
If you tell us which DAW, someone here will be able to be more specific.
There are no decisions to be made exporting .WAV files from BIAB: there is only CD quality of 44.1/16.
MIDI is just instructions, so if you drag a MIDI track into your DAW, you will assign a software or hardware synth to play it and select the patch (sound) within your DAW. Again, nothing to do in BIAB. The exception would be if you use BIAB to render your MIDI to audio using a VSTi.
You are correct, if you only export RealTracks (and RealDrums), it's all audio, no MIDI. But keep in mind if you have anything in the Melody or Soloist tracks, you cannot use RealTracks to play individual notes for Melody or harmony; that will require MIDI.
Is this along the lines of what you wanted to know?
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 21
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 21 |
Thank you for the quick reply. I primarily use Auria on iOS. I noticed that there wasn't really any options for exporting, as you said. I was just wondering if there was anything else that affected the quality of the exported WAV file at all, particularly when using RealTracks.
On the issue of 44.1/16...do I need to have Windows set to this as opposed to 44.1/24?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,341
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,341 |
I believe BIAB will only export 44.1 / 16 bit no matter what you have told Windows to use as a default setting for recording. Likewise, my DAW is SONAR which defaults to 24 bit recording, but that has nothing to do with BIAB.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,199
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,199 |
Adding on to Matt's thoughts....
When I export,I always remove reverb and pan to the centre. I prefer to adjust these in my DAW.
If you right-click on 'Master' on the top menu, the option 'Set mix to flat dry and center' does this for all tracks.
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 21
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 21 |
Thank you guys for the replies. I appreciate the advice.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,386
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,386 |
I was just wondering if there was anything else that affected the quality of the exported WAV file at all, particularly when using RealTracks. Well the most basic one would be regular version VS Audiophile version. That'll make more difference than anything else .. but it's usually not enough for most people to notice .. Audiophile is 16/44 from the start Regular version is WMA converted to 16/44 and exported. I *think* one of the behind the scenes differences in BB and RB is just when this conversion occurs. In RB I think it may occur during generation but in BB it may happen later in the Export process. This may be one of the things that makes RB appear to generate slower than BB. rharv speculation but; Far as I know RB uses the same generate engine as BB (same exact EXE file for the work), but if RB was also converting the result to 16/44 (or whatever the project bit rate is) during the generate process, and BB wasn't, that would explain why it takes longer. Anyway, depends on your needs. You CAN have 16/44 files to start with and that would probably make the biggest difference in the results, if you are worried about conversions anyway.
Last edited by rharv; 01/10/17 01:07 PM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 886
Expert
|
Expert
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 886 |
Adding on to Matt's thoughts....
When I export,I always remove reverb and pan to the centre. I prefer to adjust these in my DAW.
If you right-click on 'Master' on the top menu, the option 'Set mix to flat dry and center' does this for all tracks. I just found this, and it is a time saver! But if you are manually removing reverb & panning to center, don't forget to also zero the Tone Control if you want full control in your DAW.
i5 3.20GHz, 32gb RAM, 1tb SSD OS, 12tb HDD, 4gb gForce vid card, 32" monitor, Audient id44, Win10 x64, BiaB/RB 2023, Reaper 6,IK Multimedia Total Studio 3.5 MAX, Waves 10
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,919
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,919 |
(snip ...) I just found this, and it is a time saver! But if you are manually removing reverb & panning to center, don't forget to also zero the Tone Control if you want full control in your DAW. If I don't care for the "natural" sound of an instrument track but otherwise like the performance I'll tweak the tone control prior to export. It defaults to zero so there is no need to remember if you haven't used the tone control feature.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 21
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 21 |
Additional question on this same topic...
If my primary concern is exporting separate tracks (generated primarily using RealTracks) as WAVs for editing/mixing in a DAW, and assuming that my DAW is entirely separate, using different hardware/monitors, does any of the audio driver setup really matter? For example...MME vs ASIO, etc...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,341
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,341 |
I believe that answer is No.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,666
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,666 |
I have just discovered that the new 2017 Real Band exports files as "acidized" files, apparently by default. I had to go back and find out how to export un-acidized or raw waves.
Acidized files have some cool features that some DAW's will be able to read and use. However, I want raw waves. I think that, and don't quote me on this, acidized waves contain timing and pitch data and possibly more. So when you export a track in D major at 100 bpm into a DAW that can read acid files, and it's default is set to 100 bpm and C major... the song is going to be different in pitch and tempo.
So... acidized or RAW wave.... just be aware.
For exporting AUDIO with the best quality, simply export as a Wave. 16/44.1 or 24/44.1, as either is 100% compatible in a DAW like Sonar. The raw wave file transfers easily across and between any DAW platform.
Exporting midi, it doesn't matter since you will be assigning the midi to a synth in your DAW. Data is data until you assign it to a synth.
Regarding the playback and drivers.... I don't know anything about the Mac OS. However, if you are using external hardware in the form of an interface, be sure to use the recommended driver. ASIO is the preferred driver for windows based platforms. I didn't think iOS used drivers... (I'm assuming that iOS is a Mac platform) If it's not windows, I don't know anything about it and my knowledge is limited with windows on the deeper things, too.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,319
Posts790,891
Members39,857
| |
Most Online25,754 Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|