Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,992
Expert
|
OP
Expert
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,992 |
tips...021. A REAL RECORDING SESSION WITH POWERTRACKS.(cont.).
ok..at this point we have basically built the skeleton of our song in ptw. what i would suggest is , as a basic concept, keeping tracks 1 to 16 for the song bed traks/skeleton. and traks 17 onwards for the song up front/lead tracks and icings. before starting the next major phase. recording the leads and icings for the CEFE band , i would like to add some general tips to think about. as follows. (these i will be adding to over time, and updateing this post as i think of more points.) 1. recording runs the whole gamut of emotions. some days youll be ultra happy. other days frustrated as hell..lol. just take it all i your stride. some days the recording gods will be in your favor and other days not. just dont burn yourself out. 2. a major piece of advice i can give is.. dont go overboard on effects. "everything in moderation". its ok..lol....i fall into traps like get a new piece of gear i want to use EVERYWHERE..lol. its called being human. 3. dont CONFUSE the listener. for example study the great engineers of the past on great records. notice all the subtle things they do, and write them down. for example,...think of this RULe (but break it if it makes sense on a song.). largely ..ONE SPECIAL EFFECT AT ONE TIME. for example notice ?? on some big record ?? how sometimes the drums are quite dry ?? and in certain places for the sound picture , some vocal effect is introduced at various times ?? notice also, while this one effect is occurring in its time slot , how everything else is supportive ?? this is all part of picture painting. 4. notice in ptw's various effects how pg have set up already patches for certain instruments ?? REALLY SPEND TIME, going thru all the various effects. and their presets, .like.WOW...what will "hot plucked bass" do for me. or "attack drums"..or.."ratty guitar"...(<<<once used that one to create an animal effect.. think outside the box !!.)..or "guitar slap"...or .WOW.. "guitar echo plex" or ."guitar trails"...or.."ambient double"... or ...."wide slow sweep"...or ...some of the tremelo settings... or...many of the others and the real time effects. 5. really go thru the various ptw tips of the days, the help files n pdf's and videos. pg have provided a wealth of info as well as lots of FAQ's. make sure also u understand all the different menus, and features and what they do. (i'll be covering some triks with some of them in later posts.) 6. get into backing up your song project seq's religiously. (a seq basically contains EVERYTHING relating to the song includeing all tracks and settings.) if you religiously have all songs in their own unique song folder within a parent folder called "songs". you can also religiously back up "songs" to one or more dvd's at regular time points . 6. sometimes , like the custom CEFE band song we are doing in these posts. you might not want to hear the metronome. i typically turn it off if ive created a custom clik track as per this CEFE case. (ie...OPTIONS>>>METRONOME>>>make sure recording and playback are unticked. ) 7. notice for midi tracks u can achieve higher resolution. (OPTIONS>>>RESOLUTION and select a higher number.) 8. if your a newbie to midi. do yourself a favor and get a book explaining midi and also soak up all the midi info. one COMMON PROBLEM that baffles people is they see midi data on a track. they have an external midi module hooked up to the pc, for example via some midi usb or other protocol device but get no sound out of the midi module. often this is simply resolved by ensureing the midi receive channel on the external device matches the midi channel that shows on the track in ptw. some fancy midi gear requires various parameters to be set up also. (thus u must consult the manual for the gear in question.) a simple example of a possible problem. a track in ptw shows a midi channel setting (CH in classics view of 3 lets say. ). but the external midi module isnt set to CH 3 receive. these are common issues to be aware of. 9. notice ADDITIONAL WINDOWS IN PTW. like the guitar tuner plug in, and the MIDI MONITOR. for example. i bet lots of people havent spent some time with midi mon. but it can be USEFULL. also in tracking down midi problems. (click on its help and learn all about it !!.highly usefull.) 10. you have a singer that has problem staying in tune. heres a solution to try. after his/her first take when u realise u have a problem. to help the singer stay in tune. record the singers notes note for note on a seperate track , from a synth into sound card line input mimicking the vocal notes. then play this track back to the singer in the singers phones, while the singer re does the vocal track. it might just help staying in tune. use a distinct patch , mebe simple piano notes for example. ie.a patch where the notes are quite "pure". 11. dont be too ready to put yourself into a heavy bank loans position. for gear..this COULD stress you out. been there done that. and REALLY EXPLORE all possibilities with your current gear. in countries like mine consider diy to overcome high retail prices n taxes on gear n also buying used gear. its wonderfull what 5k will buy u these days. get CRAFTY with your purchases. for example on the net youll see lots of diy schematics. for example a mic u can build for a few buks outta a panasonic capsule. 12. as your adding recorded tracks and mixing useing ptw's mixer keep your eyes like a HAWK on PTW's output led's. n bring your faders down accordingly. aim for a mix no higher than -3db. also .if useing a fancy sound card with its own metering. monitor it ALSO. 13. if your starting out try and record as much different variety and instruments as possible. this is what i did years ago. this experience is invaluable and imho is better than takeing theory lessons. hands on is a very good teacher. record everything and anything u can. 14. really spend lots of time learning mic positioning. for example , the venerable guitar amp. try micing it close up. try putting the amp on a chair and micing it. face the amp into a corner of a room...and mic the wall reflections. when the amp is blasting. ie..EXPERIMENT with everything and anything. 15. try "re amping". (but watch for feedback probs.). solo a guitar track and send it out to a different guitar amp , and get a friend to twiddle with settings on the amp while u listen over monitors in your control room. mebe for something "grungy" try sending a vocal track or a keyboard track out to a guitar amp with a touch of distn for a different "flavor". just think of all the variable possibilities in conjunction with ptw's built in fx. mebe u have a reverby bathroom somewhere. send a track out to it via a speaker, then experiment with a mic in the reverby bathroom (or stairwell ) or whatever. (i'm just trying to get you to think about possibilities for extending your fx palette. the speaker in a reverby space is an old trick...lol,.) 16. be leery of midi THRU on devices. it can cause a problem. lets say for example, you have a few external midi modules being driven from ptw. instead of daisy chaining them useing midi thru's. consider getting a midi splitter box with a number of midi outs on it. so each out goes to midi in of a module. (more to come).
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!
Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums58
Topics84,623
Posts781,896
Members39,705
|
Most Online25,754 Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|