Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 70
R
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
R
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 70
Piano roll velocity editing in Biab

Trying to figure out if it´s possible to edit notes (midi-note-bars) in a faster way for the workflow. Mainly if it´s possible to grab several notes (for example a phrase, and move the whole phrase up or down for more or less velocity, in Biab.

/René

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
P
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
Draw a selection over the notes/phrase,
hold the shift key and drag one of the velocities.

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
BB_Piano_Roll_Group_Velocity.gif (336.88 KB, 153 downloads)
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,489
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,489
Thanks Pipeline! Learn something new every day.


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2026
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,071
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,071
Excellent tip. Another thank you.


BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,114
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,114
Hi Pipeline

Good one!
thanks a lot.
Mike


BIAB2021 UltraPlus,AsusN55S1Tbssd, W10/64,Akai EIEpro
Yamaha CVP405,SquireStrat, CoolsoftVMidSynth
Novatation Impulse61 Ctr kbd, Cwalk blab Kontakt

http://mikesmusic.byethost16.com/
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 697
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 697
Plus that tip on right click, View Image and Ctrl mouse wheel helped a lot.

DE

Last edited by DEddy; 02/09/17 03:51 AM. Reason: correction

Win 10, 64 bit, love my Lenovo T420, BIAB 2019 (613), RB 2019 (2)

Short term memory is getting shorter.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,071
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,071
That editing tip is definitely worth adding to the Tips And Tricks section.


BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,496
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,496
+1 on that! That's a great tip. Thanks Pipeline.

Jeff


Win11, Intel i7 7700K 4.2Ghz, 32Gb RAM, 2x1Tb HD, 500Gb NVMe, BIAB/RB 2026, MOTU 828MK3 audio, MOTU Midi Express, Yamaha Montage 7, DX7II, TX802, Motif XS Rack, Roland Fantom XR Rack, Oberheim Matrix 1000, VoiceLive3 Extreme, Kontakt 6, SampleTank 4.3
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 70
R
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
R
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 70
laugh Thanks! Supergood!

/René

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,753
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,753
Similar to "Lasso" in Reapers Piano Roll Editor.


Does the noise in your head bother me ?
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697
Funny, to me that's not a tip or trick, lassoing the notes is regular usage. Just click on the Help button in the piano roll window, it's all there and there's a vid on this too.

The only problem here is when the midi is a drum track and you're trying to change the velocity of one note like the snare for example. That one note is buried by the other notes hitting at the same time.

What I do then is use the piano keys on the left. If the note I want to change is a Bb hit Bb on the piano key. That turns all the Bb's to red for the entire track then I'll scroll until I can find an isolated Bb midi note and use that to change the velocity for all of them. If I can't find one sometimes I can find one where the Bb is on top of the other hits and drag that one note just a bit to the side so I can work with it to change all the velocities and then move it back.

If that fails then simply create a new Bb note in an open area where you can see it, hit the Bb piano key again and use that new Bb to change all of them then delete it.

Bob


Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,753
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,753
When I lasso say, a measure or group of midi notes, then raise or lower one of the velocity stems/pipes below it adjusts all the lassoed note velocities except for the one I dragged the stem up/down on. I always have to go back and adjust that single one afterwards.
Anyone know what I'm missing?
RealBand 2016 (10)


Does the noise in your head bother me ?
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
P
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
Not sure what's happening there, can you send a screen shot ?
So are you holding the Shift key ?

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
RB_Midi_Notes_16-10.gif (448.74 KB, 59 downloads)
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,071
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,071
Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
Funny, to me that's not a tip or trick, lassoing the notes is regular usage.

Lassoing the notes is normal for most, but not everyone may realize that adjusting velocity from all of the selected notes above is so readily possible.


BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,753
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,753
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Not sure what's happening there, can you send a screen shot ?
So are you holding the Shift key ?


No, I've only been holding the Ctrl key. I'll try shift and report back.
Not at workstation at the moment.


Does the noise in your head bother me ?
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697
Oh, absolutely it's a valid question, I was just commenting about putting this in the Tips & Tricks forum. If something is in Help and there's a vid about it, then there's no need. I'm not one to jump on somebody to say RTFM! I don't do that either sometimes, I'll get frustrated and ask the question here.

Bob


Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,071
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,071
Good on you Bob.

Yes, it would be great to be in Help, and have a Video, but that "Help" thing is another animal all together, eh? <a small groan is made at this point while typing> smile

And coming to the defense of the document writers, the Help System must be a very difficult animal to actually both tame and maintain.


BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!

If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!

Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.

PowerTracks Pro 2026 for Windows is Here!

PowerTracks 2026 is here—bringing powerful new enhancements designed to make your production workflow faster, smoother, and more intuitive than ever.

The enhanced Mixer now shows Track Type and Instrument icons for instant track recognition, while a new grid option simplifies editing views. Non-floating windows adopt a modern title bar style, replacing the legacy blue bar.

The Master Volume is now applied at the end of the audio chain for consistent levels and full-signal master effects.

Tablature now includes a “Save bends when saving XML” option for improved compatibility with PG Music tools. Plus, you can instantly match all track heights with a simple Ctrl-release after resizing, and Add2 chords from MGU/SGU files are now fully supported... and more!

Get started today—first-time packages start at just $49.

Already using PowerTracks Pro Audio? Upgrade for as little as $29 and enjoy the latest improvements!

Order now!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!

Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!

We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.

Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!

Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!

Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!

We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

Happy New Year!

Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.

Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!

Season's Greetings!

Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!

The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.

Team PG

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics86,060
Posts799,562
Members40,022
Most Online44,367
Mar 4th, 2026
Newest Members
B Positive Music, Kagiso Blue, McBody, Elpayo, LeoCento
40,022 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 146
DC Ron 102
rsdean 95
WaoBand 76
DrDan 75
Today's Birthdays
bill Weldon
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5