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MC5 will install on vista/7 64bit as a 32bit app, but not as a 64bit app.
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Thanks, Beagle. Are any problems created by installing and running it as a 32-bit application on a 64-bit OS? Scott 
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Hi Beagle! Sony Support tells me some 32-bit applications will not run on the Vista 64-bit OS. He suggests trying to get a trial version of MC5. If it runs on the 64-bit OS then I can buy the program. Have you or your source of information actually run MC5 on a 64-bit OS. I guess if it runs it should just run a little slower than 64-bit applications but should not cause any other problems. What do you think? Thanks, Scott.
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there's not a trial version of MC5. there is a trial version of sonar, but it does not come with TTS-1.
I'll try to get some information on the cakewalk forum from users who are using MC5 on vista/win7 64bit and see if anyone is having any problems using it, but I would think it would run fine.
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Hi Gary, Thanks for your reply. I am trying to determine if Music Creator 5 works with 64-bit processors so I can buy it and use the TTS-1 with my BIAB 2010/RB. Your recommendation has convinced me that the TTS is great. Do you use it on a 64-bit OS or can you confirm that Music Creator 5 with the TTS will work on a 64-bit system? Thanks, Scott
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Peter, I was not clear in my last msg - sorry. Sony says some 32-bit applications will not run on the Vista 64 bit OS. Music Creator 5 apparently will install on Vista 64, but as a 32-bit application. I want to get Music Creator 5 because it is the least expensive way to get TTS-1, since you can't buy it separately. So I am trying to find anyone who has installed Music Creator 5 and got it to work so they could get TTS into their 64-bit system. Have you installed Music Creator 5 on a 64-bit system and gotten TTS that way or can you otherwise confirm for me that it can be installed and be operative on a 64-bit system so that I may access TTS? Thanks for your patience with me! Scott
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I have confirmation on the sonar forum that when sonar is installed as a 32bit app on win7 64bit or vista 64bit, that indeed TTS-1 does work fully correctly.
that's not a direct confirmation about MC5 itself, but MC5 is a derrivative of sonar.
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Thanks Beagle. I will take that as sufficient confirmation to invest my money! Thank you again for your help! Merry Christmas! Scott
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Scott,
I use Vista 64 Ultimate on my computer, and TTS-1 works on that, although I will admit that I haven't tried bank changes. I have a hardware synth that I use.
However, I've had issues with Sonar 7 running in 64 bit mode, so I run it in 32 bit mode. The problem is with my SOUND CARD DRIVERS and NOT SONAR! Once I get the sound card drivers updated for 64 bit, then I should be able to reinstall Sonar as a 64 bit app.
However, there are many applications, including Band In A Box, which are not 64 bit apps, and work very well on a 64 bit system. However, if you are trying to run a 64 bit program, everything must be 64 bits. So, depending on your sound card, it may be easier to run MC5 as a 32 bit app, and you shouldn't have any issue at all.
Gary
I'm blessed watching God do what He does best. I've had a few rough years, and I'm still not back to where I want to be, but I'm on the way and things are looking far better now than what they were!
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Gary, Thanks! I bought the MC5 and got it started, after a really lengthy registration exercise. I then put the TTS-1 into Real Band and BIAB and it sounds good in them and recognizes the one bank change I have tried so far. So that is a big step forward. I haven't tried to use MC5 itself for anything yet but I am fairly confident now that when I do it will be fine. Thank you very much for your help! Happy Holidays! Scott
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Hi Aubrey, I just loaded TTS into my Real Band and BIAB. Have you gotten an answer to your question about the wav files yet? Happy Holidays! Scott
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I want to thank everyone here who has reviewed and made such helpful comments about the TTS problems I have discussed in earlier posts. But I think Andrew has found the solution and the cause. Let me try to explain it simply - as I am not knowledgeable enough to explain it in the proper technical terms. Please forgive any slight errors.
Essentially the TTS does not change automatically from GM2 to GS mode when a SysEx msg is sent (my external SD-20 does). Roland says soft synths do not recognize any SysEx msgs. When Real Band opens a midi file it usually strips the bank change controllers from the event list and puts the information in the patch dialog area (altho sometimes some MSB or LSB contollers are not stripped and remain in the event list). TTS is by default in the GM2 mode (although you can manually change it to GS, etc), so any GS bank change msg can cause problems.
So, improper or incomplete bank change settings in the midi files can cause the TTS to go to its default settings with certain MSB contoller numbers (other than 120 for drums and 121 for all other instruments). The default settings in TTS in this situation are PC 1 (piano) -unless you have manually changed it to something else on a channel by channel basis. So your instrument can be automatically changed to a piano or, ocassionally, something else, by the TTS when it gets an improper bank change controller.
So I need to go back into all the files and make sure I am getting the right bank change msgs to the TTS. I have a list of all the GS and GM2 bank change possiblities. I suppose that is all as clear as mud! Sorry.
As to the possibility of pitch changes distorting sounds, the TTS help file says if you have sound troubles with the TTS turn down the volume. I initially had my lappy sound set to 100%, but I have turned it down. Andrew says about the only problem people have with pitch bend is failing to enter a zero at the end of the pitch bend strings. I found many such situations in the midi files I have. I think it can lead to the bleeding of sound into the next file played if the proper resets are not entered. And it seems like many programers no longer bother with resets.
Of course, if there is an improper bank change msg on a channel with pitch bend I assume you can get unusual results.
I know I will have more problems of various kinds, but now, thanks to all of you, I feel like I have many new friends who will probably be able to help me find a solution to any problem!
Thank you all very much! Scott
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By the way, just to dispel any doubts, Alley Cat was recorded using BIAB to do the song (it's a .mgu file I have, I don't know who did it) using the TTS-1, and then rendered to wave files. Each track was a separate file, imported to Sonar 7 SE for final mixdown (Audio only) and then converted to a .wma file. My computer is a AMD Quad Core running at 3.0gHz, 8 GB of RAM, Windows 7 64 Ultimate, Asus Xonar D2X, M-Audio 2496, and more hard drive space then I can shake a stick at (and more on the way for Monday!) This is a 13 meg file, 24 bit VBR wma. www.catsmeowcafe.com/Music/alleycattest.wmaGary
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