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- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 9:40:38 AM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =3,019 [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 9:40:38 AM]
Well no record breaker here, considering this old Dell i7 used to be a powerhouse back in the day, but otherwise, pretty nice.
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- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 11:19:48 AM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =2,462 [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 11:19:48 AM]
- Time to Count Plugins in ms =214. Plugins counted=25 [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 11:19:47 AM]
Phenom Tri-core, much quicker now.
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- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 9:40:38 AM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =3,019 [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 9:40:38 AM]
Well no record breaker here, considering this old Dell i7 used to be a powerhouse back in the day, but otherwise, pretty nice. Shut down, went to lunch and when I started again, felt like I had to wait forever....  - Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 11:51:55 AM] - Bootup time in millseconds =9,596 [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 11:51:55 AM]
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What'd you have for lunch that slowed you down so much?
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Was there anything below that in the log file? Sometimes (historically) I've seen 'stylepicker rebuild' messages and other stuff that explained the time..
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Just for the record, it was an extra 6 sec. to *count plugins" which it did not record on the first loading.
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So you're back down to 3 or so?
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I find that the first start is slower than subsequent restarts (for the same computer session). Presumably as a result of some caching by the O/S
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Yep in Win 7 I'm getting the above typical ~2 sec's (aka 2072 +/- ms) - I'll try Win 10 later on this machine, specs below.
Not sure what numbers were prior to update (I deleted the .txt file)
The interesting case is, like Matt and a few others, my 2006 Core 2 Duo (2 Gz Intel T7200 chip), Dell Latitude D820, max 4GB RAM, with it's third and final "fast" PATA/IDE 750GB HDD upgrade, running Win XP. [Not worth hassle of finding a PATA/IDE to SATA interface, that will FIT in the space allowed. Besides I have a new i7 Win 10 Pro laptop that DOES have SDD's showing up later this week]
Before 461 update, on the D820, the x-bar was ~17.4 secs (pointless to say 17,400 ms but I guess I just did), after update it was ~5.8 sec's (ok 5,883 ms) so right at 3X faster.
Note, in both cases, I'm losing the same ~1 sec (1,036 ms) to plugins counting; therefore, plugin counting impact on boot time is more significant AFTER update than before by a factor of 3 - LOL
Great work guys!
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Wow.....that is fantastic, Doctor. Mine rebooted in negative time, like yesterday!
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My first one of the day (after a restart of my computer) was 11,664 milliseconds. My next two were 3,475 approximately. Is Band in a Box using memory to keep itself ready for a fast start?
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Here is my boot time: [img] https://www.dropbox.com/s/oube0noq8umns75/BiaB%20boot%20time.JPG?dl=0[/img] I don't now what my original boot time was. All I know is now I don't have time to get another beer  Gee thanx Peter PS - let me know if you can see the image. Dropbox has messed things up when it comes to the public folder.
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Yes, I see the image. 1,403 ms for boot time is very fast.
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Are these times based on the first time opening Biab after a cold restart of the computer? If so then mine isn't so fast, maybe 15-20 seconds using the system in my sig. After that, if I close Biab and reopen it's almost immediate, like 2 seconds or so. I've tried this 5-6 times, same result.
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Are these times based on the first time opening Biab after a cold restart of the computer? If so then mine isn't so fast, maybe 15-20 seconds using the system in my sig. After that, if I close Biab and reopen it's almost immediate, like 2 seconds or so. I've tried this 5-6 times, same result.
Bob My time was on the second time opening BiaB. It has been the same every time after that.
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))) Are these times based on the first time opening Biab after a cold restart of the computer
A bootup after a cold restart will be a little slower for any program. And if the bootup is done immediately after a bootup, it could be very slow. This is because many apps are working during startup - email, Dropbox etc.
If you're getting 2 seconds, that's great. If it's 16 seconds after a cold reboot, that's unusually long, but maybe you have services running as above.
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My old Windows 7 with core i7 boots much faster, but I don’t know, or care, how to measure it. I just watch it until it comes on. The faster speed is nice to have, but not nearly as much as correcting the faulty frozen tracks that wouldn’t play previously. That’s a big deal to us live players, who had to wait an eternity for 6 or 7 real tracks to load, some of which had solos. You can imagine the wait time, with folks staring at you wondering when the song will start. Now, if PG Music could get non-frozen real tracks to load blazingly fast, that would really be something to celebrate.
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My old Windows 7 with core i7 boots much faster, but I don’t know, or care, how to measure it. I just watch it until it comes on. The faster speed is nice to have, but not nearly as much as correcting the faulty frozen tracks that wouldn’t play previously. That’s a big deal to us live players, who had to wait an eternity for 6 or 7 real tracks to load, some of which had solos. You can imagine the wait time, with folks staring at you wondering when the song will start. Now, if PG Music could get non-frozen real tracks to load blazingly fast, that would really be something to celebrate. To avoid that, you should use either *.mp3 or *.wav files as backing tracks and play over those, not BIAB itself. HTH,
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- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/21/2017 10:33:16 AM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =1,807 [2017.461.1, 3/21/2017 10:33:16 AM]
- Time to Count Plugins in ms =97. Plugins counted=20 [2017.461.1, 3/21/2017 10:33:15 AM]
**** New Session started at : 3/21/2017 10:33:15 AM
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My old Windows 7 with core i7 boots much faster, but I don’t know, or care, how to measure it.
Now, if PG Music could get non-frozen real tracks to load blazingly fast, that would really be something to celebrate.
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You measure bootup time as described above, just run a main menu item help-utilities-display log. Then find the line with bootup time on it. At the top of the file.
The time to generate non-frozen songs is CPU dependent. I have an old win 7 machine, and it's gotten slower over the years. This is from layer upon layer of third party software addons (Dropbox, iTunes etc, avg) and perhaps the hard drive getting slower, or memory management. Anyway, you should measure your single core geekbench score, as if it is low that would be the cause of waiting a long time to generate a non frozen song.
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In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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