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I didn't purposely set out to write a song in 6/8, it was only now when I am trying to put together a beat to my lyrics and melody that I realise it is 6/8 time.
Can you imagine a soldier in days gone by with red coats and the drummer boy beating on the snare going into battle, well thats the sort of image the song conjures up BUT I have tried nearly every pattern in BIAB and nothing matches, if I find a beat near the guitars are off etc etc. 3/4 just don't swing it for my song...............so
There are quite a few 6/8 versions plus fills. I have noticed that the 3/4 time in BIAB is now twice as quick as the MT drums. For example the 3/4 style I used in BIAB is 140BPM but if I wish to use the MT drums over the song it has to be 70BPM . I have only listened to it once but it seemed a little out of sync, but maybe it needs a tweek.
Before I go and spend another 3 days trying various styles has anyone come across the problem and would I be on the right course for finding a workaround to solve my little problem.
My other problem is of course I cant fingerpick the guitar well enough to give the groove I want so I must rely on my 'Band in a box' to do its best.
I have jumped from folk to country to hard rock to celtic, I can't shelf the song because I told my wife I had written it for her so I must continue.
Paul
I definitely feel your pain. while BB is an excellent resource, sometimes to get what you want, you have to think and work out of the box (pun intended). Despite there being thousands of styles available in BB, there are certain to be some that they missed. I've tried the very thing you mentioned.... change BB tempo to try to get it to emulate a certain groove. That didn't work. When one or more tracks sounded good, the drums were so far off from the groove it wasn't funny and vice versa. Since that song wasn't what I considered to be one of my better songs at the time, I just set it aside and let it collect dust. If you are able to get one of the tracks to work.... maybe by soloing the drums and changing the tempo, export that track to a good DAW. Perhaps you will need to have several different BB projects to get all the tracks you want. Maybe you will need to call on the services of a real musician to play a certain guitar, or bass part, or maybe use a synth and midi to capture that drum track correctly with the right groove. I mentioned a "good DAW". Having one is crucial to doing things outside of the box. Many DAW's have audio snap features where you can let the DAW snap or sync the audio that might be slightly out of time. Slicing, dicing, and gluing it all back together again is easy in a good DAW. So... if you can get the groove you need from one or more BB tracks.... export those to a DAW. In the DAW, use a drum synth to get the drum track..... find live musicians to assist on the parts that you're not able to complete in software and see how it turns out.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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