I'm just wondering, since there seem to be loads of free Kontakt sets out there if any of you have ever examined the idea of converting those to the sfz format?
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When you convert one format to another you may lose some or many attributes and nuances of that patch. Thus although you can convert the final sound may or may not be the same as the original.
FWIW-you can use those free Kontakt sounds with the free Kontakt player. Personally that is the way I would proceed.
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When you convert one format to another you may lose some or many attributes and nuances of that patch. Thus although you can convert the final sound may or may not be the same as the original.
FWIW-you can use those free Kontakt sounds with the free Kontakt player. Personally that is the way I would proceed.
Probably not. Only NI licensed libraries get to use the free Kontakt player except for the free libraries that NI includes.
All those free sounds are designed for use in the paid version of Kontakt.
NI does not want people to convert their libraries and make it very difficult to do so.
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I'm just wondering, since there seem to be loads of free Kontakt sets out there if any of you have ever examined the idea of converting those to the sfz format?
Why would you even want to do that? I guess you want the free Kontakt sets and the ability to play them huh?
Why not just get the FREE KONTAKT player? On the NI site.... there are a few free players for their stuff. Not as full featured but totally free and "full working versions" none the less.
...there seem to be loads of free Kontakt sets out there...
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but if those wavs are copyright protected then you would be breaking the law...
If they are free they are free.
We went through all this with Frank (Seeker), he was put off creating UserTracks forever after someone said "you would be breaking the law", I got in touch with the company and found out from them that it wasn't the case.
I know, I was trying to avoid having to grasp their convoluted interface, I s'pose, particularly since we got that blissfully simple sfz interface already. I'll give that link a shot, Pipeline, although that too seems like more new things to grasp, so I dunno
Anyway, thanks to all who chimed in, I just might end up just sticking with the decent stuff I already got for sforzando, so write this one out to general curiosity more than dire need (which it certainly wasn't).
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ESC has many import formats but is only for Win unless you use something like WineBottler ?
For those who want to convert other formats to SFZ.
From the Soundiron Venus Women's Choir:
"While you can reprogram the samples or presets to other formats, we always recommend using Kontakt for best results, since it widely considered the industry standard and easily the most powerful sample programming and playback platform on the market. However, if you wish to convert or reprogram the wav files and instrument presets into any other sampler or softsynth format, including free and open-source standards like SFZ, then there are a variety of great tools that you can use to customize this library, such as Extreme Sample Converter and Chickensys Translator. Just be aware that not all settings and properties will translate accurately, reliably or even at all from one instrument or audio format to the next, due to vast differences in standards, behaviors, structures and capabilities that each platform relies on."
I get most of my exercise these days from shaking my head in disbelief.
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Here's a Mac WineBottle Extreme Sample Converter. It's a Standalone ESC.app It may take a while before the gui comes up. if it works you know the full will.
I've converted a number of Kontakt samples into sfz instruments. My motivation was to be able to use them with my USB EWI, which uses an underpowered netbook as the sound source.
In some cases, I've been able to use Kontakt to export the samples as .wav files, which is convenient. Getting the samples by playing them through Kontakt means you're getting a second generation sample, at best.
When there's just a single sample per note, I set up a <group> trigger=first for one set of samples, and <group> trigger=legato using the same samples, but with legato parameters for the second group.
I've not had to deal with loop points. Those values are visible in Kontakt, but often samples are long enough (several seconds) that it not been a problem for me.
When the sample set contains true legato samples, it's a lot more work. That's mostly because transitions are shared between notes. For example, the transition from A4 to D4 might be shared by the notes F#4, G4, G#4, A4 and A#4. There are a lot of sampled legato transitions, so my solution was to write a Java program to figure out the the best mappings and generate the .sfz file.
If I'm feeling particular clever, I'll also create round robins from the nearest notes.
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