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Larry,

In attempting to solve your issue, I write a couple of posts. This should help reduce the confusion factor.


Here is POST #1.


Firstly, I need to make sure that your MIDI and audio drivers are suitably set.

1. Select "Options | Preferences".

2. Click on the "MIDI Driver" button. (It's on the top row of buttons and 5th from the left.)


Now... as shown on the image below...

3. Select "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth" (#1 on image).

4. Where the image shows 'Cakewalk TTS-1' in #2 and #5, click on both these buttons and select Coyote WT from the drop down menus.

5. Make sure that checkboxes #3 and #4 are selected (as shown).

6. On button #7, check that MME is selected as the audio driver. If it is not, click on the button and set it. (MME is always the best audio driver to use when solving problems.)

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POST #2

For the moment, I'll use the original way of rendering.


1. Use the toggle shortcut CTRL+T to return to the standard-screen mode (if you are in full-screen mode).

2. Select Audio (#1 on image) and then "Render..." (#2).

3. If you have a look at #3 on the image, this indicates the path where the WAV file will be saved.

4. To change this path, select #4 and navigate to an alternative directory. A filename also needs to be entered before "Save" is selected.

5. Activate the options I've shown as #5 (these are probably already selected).

6. Leave #6 (Delay at end) set to 2 secs.

7. De-activate the "Include ACID info" option (#7).

8. Double-check that the path shown in #3 is correct.

9. Press button #8 to start the rendering process.


How did this go?

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The only snag before testing is that I dont have Coyote installed (this is 2017 UltraPlus) and see no way to install it. Following the instructions on installing from the help menu does not work. Is there an install executable and where is it located?

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Larry,

When you received your USB drive, there is a Setup.EXE file on the USB drive that needs to be run.

That will offer different install options and will also install Coyote WT. This needs to be run even if you run the program entirely from the USB drive (simply choose the minimum install). It's around 20 MB if my memory is accurate. What this does is to put the files on the computer that BIAB and Windows needs as well as write necessary information to the registry.

I suspect that not having Coyote WT installed is part of the present problem because BIAB needs a VST synth for rendering even when Realtracks are being rendered.

If you have already run setup.exe....

On my Audiophile USB drive, the BIAB/RB install file that would contain Coyote WT is on p:\PG Music\Installers

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I've had this bb for about 10 days now and having multiple issues. I decided to install it totally on my pc which is pretty fast to see if it performs better and perhaps alleviates the problems. I am installing now, will test ( using all of your helpful directions ) and report back. Maybe a fresh install will do the trick.

I have a pretty serious system (all the latest technology), and was quite surprised at how sluggish the program is using the USB drive.

Thank you for sticking with me through this learning curve.

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... quite surprised at how sluggish the program is using the USB drive.

One thing you might try is, once your malware checker has examined the PG Music USB drive, tell the malware scanner to exclude that drive.

Another quick thought: a few months into version 2017, PG Music released an update that remarkably sped up the loading of the program. However, the program has to be run several times to take effect.


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Thanks Matt ....will do

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Larry,

When you get BIAB/RB installed, set the start-up shortcuts to "Run As Administrator".

This is done by right-clicking on the shortcut, selecting "Properties" from the menu and, under the 'Compatibilit' tab, selecting "Run as administrator".

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Thanks Noel. Made a rookie mistake and attempted to install 122gb BB on a 120gb drive. Of course I didn't realize it till the end of the install.

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Larry,

I feel for you. That's very frustrating. You could install the program with everything except the Realtracks and Realdrums and then point BIAB to those on the USB drive. It's the Realtracks that take up most of that 122 GB.

Looking forward to hearing from you that success has come your way!

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Oh my god guys.......thank you so much for your experience and advice. I successfully loaded BB on my system and configured using your directions. The thing works perfectly. I was concerned that using Coyote would substitute those ancient synth sounds for the Real Tracks, which is after all what we bought this package for. But somehow even using CWT as the midi synth engine connects with the RTs and renders in a much shorter time.

All is well in BB land so far and again, thank you for sticking with me.

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Larry,

I'm glad that everything is working for you. Now you can really have fun!

For the record, Realtracks and Realdrums are audio based. Because of this, they not impacted by any software synthesiser (softsynth). It's just that a softsynth needs to be installed so that rendering can work properly. It's how BIAB works.

Enjoy making music!

All the best,
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