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Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand #416718 06/06/17 12:07 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,413 Southeast USA bloc-head OP Expert
OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,413 Southeast USA	I just re-installed BIAB/RB 2017 and BIAB lists no Dxi's in its VST/DX Synths/Plugins dialog box. The Scan for New Dx Plugins option does nothing. Coyote WT and other DXi's are recognized in RB which is installed on the same root hard drive. Bandcamp Win-11; BiaB-2026 Audiophile (latest version) Cakewalk Sonar; Melodyne-5; Scaler 3; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416728 06/06/17 01:35 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,555 Mi., USA	Maybe try clicking the Options button in the Default Synth selection screen and selecting 'Edit DXi Exclusion list'. If Coyote or other DXi's are listed here they will be ignored. Move them back to the other side of the applet. Otherwise, I can say that when I upgraded to 2017, Forte came along for the ride. Both BiaB and RB. So did all my other DXi's. Do you have it installed on another system where you can verify your issue is 2017 and not that particular machine? I ask because since it seems to have been fine for myself and others, it is likely a machine specific issue (fine for most users but not you) This makes it a bit tougher to solve. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416731 06/06/17 02:10 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,413 Southeast USA	Thanks rharv, I tried that. Nothing on the exclusion list. This problem is only on my ISUS Laptop w/ Windows10. I don't have this problem on my studio desktop machine w/ Windows 7. btw, I had this same problem on my laptop yesterday before I re-installed the programs. Also, nothing happens when I use scan for new DXi option. The program still doesn't see any DXi's. Last edited by bloc-head; 06/06/17 02:24 PM. Bandcamp Win-11; BiaB-2026 Audiophile (latest version) Cakewalk Sonar; Melodyne-5; Scaler 3; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416739 06/06/17 04:40 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Can you run the PGDX setup Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) bb_pgdx.jpg (170.38 KB, 105 downloads)

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416749 06/06/17 05:49 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,413 Southeast USA	Yes, I ran the pgdx_plug_2_0_0.exe and it saved to \PowerTracks DirectX Plugins Bandcamp Win-11; BiaB-2026 Audiophile (latest version) Cakewalk Sonar; Melodyne-5; Scaler 3; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416755 06/06/17 06:25 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Have you got these ini in the bb folder DXPluginList.ini PG Distortion={56A0D95B-6976-4DE8-A670-78CFE1C6D74C} PG Dynamics={B9EEFCC6-1EB6-44CD-A5EE-14E42785A2B1} PG Echo Chorus={FF0BB51D-1160-41E5-AD61-ECD3750E2661} PG Five Band EQ={2CC7CC18-5FB3-4210-BC33-A938AAEDE82F} PG Flanger={C31CB124-3C71-42AC-96D1-EFBD10C64A3D} PG PeakLimit={4D612B3C-360A-4896-8245-CFEB841C2656} PG Reverb={1689BBC7-F5A9-4179-A767-4596FDD77B4F} PG RingMod={FBAB4E63-C49A-4D6F-9EC6-BE899322DB0C} PG RTA={BAD0278F-8653-478A-8ECF-07A2DB152BB8} PG Ten Band EQ={76E590B7-64D6-44C1-8899-A9BAD2DEFD90} PG Tremolo={E85A81F9-FE6E-458B-9CEF-F0AFA33DC43A} PG Vinyl Tool={2FE900C3-34AF-487C-A9C1-FEBC5B58FED1} PG Vocal Remover={966FA12B-1A54-48A2-90A4-348C49F6EE11} DXiPluginList.ini None= console DXi={C625E94E-A477-48C2-AB98-4B2194BFB46F} CoyoteWT={96813C9E-EA9D-4953-B47D-74C38227D10C} ForteDXi Plug-In={96813C9E-EA9D-4943-B47D-74C38227D10C} RawPlugCount=70 and run SetupCoyoteWT12.exe

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416819 06/07/17 05:04 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,413 Southeast USA	I do have those ini files in my bb folder, but they both say: None= RawPlugCount=0 I just ran the coyote setup. Last edited by bloc-head; 06/07/17 05:14 AM. Bandcamp Win-11; BiaB-2026 Audiophile (latest version) Cakewalk Sonar; Melodyne-5; Scaler 3; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416826 06/07/17 06:25 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,413 Southeast USA	Originally Posted By: bloc-head Yes, I ran the pgdx_plug_2_0_0.exe and it saved to \PowerTracks DirectX Plugins It saved several DX.dll files to (C:)Program Files(x86)/ PowerTracks DirectX Plugins This seem odd to me since I don't have PowerTracks installed on my Laptop. Bandcamp Win-11; BiaB-2026 Audiophile (latest version) Cakewalk Sonar; Melodyne-5; Scaler 3; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416833 06/07/17 07:49 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jazzmammal Veteran Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,697 Redondo Beach, Ca.	It's because Real Band is Power Tracks with some Biab functions added to it. I think you are the first person to have an issue with DXi's in years, they always just work automatically. I would contact PG Support. Bob Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416839 06/07/17 08:23 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	"Coyote WT and other DXi's are recognized in RB" If they are empty ini's in BB and they are working in RealBand and they contain the info, just copy the ini's from the RealBand folder to the BB folder.

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand Pipeline #416845 06/07/17 09:14 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,413 Southeast USA	Originally Posted By: Pipeline "Coyote WT and other DXi's are recognized in RB" If they are empty ini's in BB and they are working in RealBand and they contain the info, just copy the ini's from the RealBand folder to the BB folder. That seem like a good idea and I will try copying those files now. I'll let you know what happens. Bandcamp Win-11; BiaB-2026 Audiophile (latest version) Cakewalk Sonar; Melodyne-5; Scaler 3; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416853 06/07/17 10:06 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,413 Southeast USA	I replaced the DXPluginList.ini and DXiPluginList.ini files in the bb folder with the ini files from the RealBand folder... after doing this and opening those files in notepad I see the following None= RawPlugCount=0 Bandcamp Win-11; BiaB-2026 Audiophile (latest version) Cakewalk Sonar; Melodyne-5; Scaler 3; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416862 06/07/17 11:26 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Can you try rename bb folder bb-old now copy the bb folder from the working desktop.

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand Pipeline #416882 06/07/17 02:09 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,413 Southeast USA	Originally Posted By: Pipeline Can you try rename bb folder bb-old now copy the bb folder from the working desktop. Thanks again everyone... I'm out of town for another day, but when I get home I may try that, or I may re-install from my originally purchased BIAB 2017 USB Hard Drive... what a great forum this is..! Last edited by bloc-head; 06/07/17 03:22 PM. Bandcamp Win-11; BiaB-2026 Audiophile (latest version) Cakewalk Sonar; Melodyne-5; Scaler 3; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416890 06/07/17 03:02 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,555 Mi., USA	Many times, just using TeamViewer (or such) would let othes fix things quickly .. but that involves a certain layer of trust. You have to agree to allow someone to log on to your computer. When it seems to be a system specific issue, as this does, it may need a system specific solution. I'd trust PG support to remote in and take a look for you FWIW. Or even an experienced user here that you trust. It could save a lot of time. It may be something weird like RB is running in Administrator mode (and thus can install DXi plugins to the OS) and BiaB isn't .. or some other weird issue, hard to say. I'd try to get a remote session going with PGMusic Support and see if they see something obvious (to them) on the system. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand rharv #416894 06/07/17 03:31 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,413 Southeast USA	that's a great idea, and I would have no problem with an PG Music or an expert user/troubleshooter looking at my system... Thanks again rharv. Bandcamp Win-11; BiaB-2026 Audiophile (latest version) Cakewalk Sonar; Melodyne-5; Scaler 3; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Help- DXi's not recognized by BIAB 2017, but are in RealBand bloc-head #416990 06/08/17 01:12 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,555 Mi., USA	I'd try Live Help at top of page to contact PGMusic, and/or PM a user to ask. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

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