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Heartache or GoodbyeThis is a song I (Alan) wrote back in 2006. I rerecorded it a couple of months ago using all BIAB backing tracks. You're stuck with my singing - Di just isn't up to it. Just one question ... is the vocal a little too much up front? I tend to think so. But my 70 year-old ears sometimes deceive me. All comments about that, or anything else, are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. File:Heartache Or Goodbye - BG Trax With Sax.SGU Key=Bb , Tempo 80, Length (m:s)=3:57 Style is _WESTPNO.STY (Subdued Country Stride) StringsCustom Synth is Hi-Q 049 01 Strings, Ensemble, Chamber Sforzando.tgs SoloistCustom Synth is Hi-Q 049 01 Strings, Ensemble, Chamber Sforzando.tgs RealTracks in song: 366:Bass, Electric, Country Ev 065 RealTracks in style: 2045:Piano, Acoustic, Solo-Accompaniment CountryPopJohn Ev 085 RealTracks in song: 2020:Sax, Tenor, Soloist PopCountryMark Ev 085 (Bluesy) MIDI SuperTracks in song: 2060:Strings, Rhythm PopCountry Ev 120 RealTracks in song: 2650:Guitar, Electric, Background DreamyPopBalladFillsBrent Ev 085 MIDI SuperTracks in song: 2058:Strings, Rhythm CelticAir Ev 085 RealDrums in style: NashvilleEven8^1-a:Sidestick, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride Heartache or Goodbye (Bb) © 2006 Alan D. David, BMI (v1) Finding you on another’s arms Guess I’ll never understand Thought everything was perfect Just like we’d planned Don’t tell me how it happened I just don’t want to hear My heart’s already shattered And I’ve cried out my last tear CHORUS It’s a choice I have to make But how do I decide Living with a heartache Or telling you goodbye Either way I pay the price For a hurt I didn’t buy Living with a heartache Or telling you goodbye (v2) How can I forgive you When you caused me so much hurt But if I decide to leave you’ Will that only make it worse It’s the cruelest kind of torture Because I just don’t My heart begs me to stay But my mind tells me to go Repeat Chorus
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Alan,
This is a great song - for me, this is your best vocal. You sound totally in control and I love the tone you're getting. When you first started singing I thought I was listening to Charlie Rich... Really outstanding.
BTW, your mix is excellent - would not change anything.
Bob
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Alan, this is a beautiful song! It tugs at the heart and your voice sounds great to me in it!
I wish I could crank out the songs like you do. You are a talented writer! Thanks, Torrey
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Alan,
Man, you are productive lately!
There's nothing wrong with the song, sounds very fine to me.
I wouldn't change anything ;-)
Rob
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Alan,
Nice job on this! I closed my eyes and got transported back in time to one of those high school dances where the girls wear gowns and the boys dress like penguins. (This would be the slow dance in my imagined time travel saga. Complete with a mirror ball rotating slowly to the tempo...)
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Hi Al-David, Thank you for sharing this! Really enjoyed the vocals and the strings. Well done! 
Cheers,
Joe
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The vocals are not too up front for me. It's kind of an Elvis Presley mix and reminds me of an Elvis Presley song as a matter of fact. With that type of song, the vocals can be really up front. I suppose you can pull it back a tad if you wanted to, but you don't have to. I really like this song by the way.
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Loved the mix. Your vocal is setting right where it should. Loved the vocal. I also got the Elvis feel to the tune. Backtrack and sax were very cool...
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Good song, and mix is perfect for these (63 year old :P) ears.
I like your voice, it has a lot of personality if that makes any sense? Good tone and control, nice vibrato.
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Alan,
This is a great song - for me, this is your best vocal. You sound totally in control and I love the tone you're getting. When you first started singing I thought I was listening to Charlie Rich... Really outstanding.
BTW, your mix is excellent - would not change anything.
Bob Hi Bob, Thank you so much for those very nice comments. Charlie Rich? i can live with that! I'm humbled by the analogy. Have great Thursday. Alan
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Alan, this is a beautiful song! It tugs at the heart and your voice sounds great to me in it!
I wish I could crank out the songs like you do. You are a talented writer! Thanks, Torrey Thank you so much, Torrey. I'm delighted you enjoyed the song. I have a couple more waiting in the wings. As far as my "output" of songs, 8 months of chemo gives you quite a bit of time to write! Also, being 70 years old and retired, I have a little more time on hand than many folks here do. Again, thank you. Wishing you the very best. ALan
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Alan,
Man, you are productive lately!
There's nothing wrong with the song, sounds very fine to me.
I wouldn't change anything ;-)
Rob
Hi Rob (Anne-Marie, too), Thank you for the very nice comments. As far as being productive, read my comments to Torrey. I have a coup0le more to post when it's time to so so. best to you and Anne-marie. Alan
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Alan,
Nice job on this! I closed my eyes and got transported back in time to one of those high school dances where the girls wear gowns and the boys dress like penguins. (This would be the slow dance in my imagined time travel saga. Complete with a mirror ball rotating slowly to the tempo...)
Hi Pat, What a pleasure hearing from you! Di says "Hi!". I;m delighted this works for you. Thanks for letting me know. And I can vividly remember those "sock hops" and more formal dances. I graduated in 1965. And yep, a penguin would have been proud of my appearance. Had a good time at them, though! The little band we had played at two of them. Wishing you the very best. Di sends a hug! Alan & Di
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Hi Al-David, Thank you for sharing this! Really enjoyed the vocals and the strings. Well done! Hi Joe, Always a pleasure to hear from the PG Music staff. So glad you enjoyed it. I appreciate you taking the time to tell me. best to you. Keep cranking out the newer versions of this fabulous program! Alan
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All around fine song.
Good messsage. Hung on every word.
Instrumental mastery, too.
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Alan,
As others have mentioned... this is one of your "best ever" vocals - well sung and well recorded. (I thought it could be pulled back just a little).
Very nice arrangement. Really like the use of the sax here...
A very enjoyable listen.
Best to you both...
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What a beautiful melancholy song, lovely singing and perfect backing track. Could be an excellent theme song for a movie. Reminds me somehow of Nat King Cole.
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Great write, Al
my goodness, seems like you're channeling Ray Price here
it has that great classic sound
very nice use of the backing tracks
good vocal, good melody
enjoyed it,
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Hello, Alan
Very beautiful song!
Your vocal is perfectly fitted to this song.
I like that the song starts from Sub-dominant instead of Tonic.
And I also like the chord progression at "Thought everything was perfect".
Enjoyed my listen a lot.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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All around fine song.
Good messsage. Hung on every word.
Instrumental mastery, too. Thanks so much, Ed. Appreciate that!
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