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I know it's early but I'm looking ahead to Xmas specials. After all it takes time to set this up.
Have you made any headway with using the Visa Debit Card or with PayPal?
Thanks.
Win 10, 64 bit, love my Lenovo T420, BIAB 2019 (613), RB 2019 (2)
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Right now there is no option for PayPal on the payment plan with us. For a Visa Debit card, it would depend on the agreement that goes along with the card - you may want to check with the bank. Stay tuned though - we are working on setting up the PayPal option still!  -Callie
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Hey DEddy,
I used my Visa Debit card for my 3 payment renewal this year, Jan.-Mar.
Worked great as I didn't have the cash do renew all at once.
I'll probably renew like that from this point on.
Good Luck!
 Steve BIAB/RB 2022, Pro Tools 2020, Korg N5, JBL LSR 4328 Powered Monitors, AKG/Shure Mics.
PC: Win11 PRO, 4 TB M2 SSD, 2 TB HD, 128 GB Memory
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Right now there is no option for PayPal on the payment plan with us. For a Visa Debit card, it would depend on the agreement that goes along with the card - you may want to check with the bank. Stay tuned though - we are working on setting up the PayPal option still! -Callie good call, Callie! PayPal is the defacto way to spend money online, and there are probably people who would rather pass up a good deal if they can't pay by PayPal. I have done exactly that on many occasions (but I made an exception for BIAB)
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...and there are probably people who would rather pass up a good deal if they can't pay by PayPal. I have done exactly that on many occasions. Me too, Pat. I like that PayPal lets me buy from anywhere in the world and is the only place that has my credit card details (I don't like passing these details on to too many businesses).
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
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Yes I love PayPal as well but keep in mind PG Music does not keep credit card info after the transaction.
Later guys & guyettes,
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Hmmm,
that may be a theory to test.
As PCI compliance changes new 'features' are added every day.
PGMusic may not store your card, but it is possible their gateway does. I have no knowledge of whether they do or don't, but I do know that for the user, you probably wouldn't be able to tell.
Example:
You send your credit card for a transaction. The website just passes that information without saving any of it .. but the gateway that approves the transaction may store it. So a processor like Authorize.net or BNG or FirstData may have the feature enabled on the payment gateway account that does this. The card is stored on the secure system there (often called wallet feature or such) and is pretty much transparent to the user.
In some ways this is good; the next time it is possible that 'tokens' can be used when making any transactions, instead of passing the actual CC number again .. but then again your CC# is indeed stored in another location, on another computer.
Which is worse?
PCI Compliance seems to think that not passing that data any more often than necessary is better. They would be the ones to enforce the change.
So far it is a feature, and not prohibited in my experience.
The more you know!
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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This is fantastic! Now I will be getting BACK into BIAB by 2018!! I've wanted to for awhile now but thought I'd have to wait another year. Indeed, no way (the way I spend money), was I going to be able to come up with the $600.00 by New Years. (Retired). That is (2017 prices) "First-time Purchase PRO=$129.00 & "UltraPlusPAK=$469.00. Anyhow, I was about to write to PG Music to see if they might be coming up with such a payment plan (American Musical Supply even has one) but did a search first and found this: http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=369858&an=16YAY!! (Rant coming) First time I bought BIAB was in 2009 and upgraded in 2010, 2012, 2013 and 2014 and then, a year or so later, my computer crashed and I was unable to boot up ever since and, so, it's been in the corner of the room since then. I did purchase a "USAB 3.0 to SATA and IDE Converter" but never got around to transferring anything (yet) from the old HD to the new one. (On the bright side it was time for a new computer anyhow as the old OS was Win XP and I now have Win 10.) The main thing was that, well, since I didn't upgrade BIAB for a few years anyhow, I decided to simply start over as if this was my first purchase. And, now, I will be able to, THIS YEAR, with the help of this payment plan!!  Thanks! 
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Rokq22 -
You should buy the upgrade (they should have a record or your previous purchases). Except for the PlusPak disk (which is just used to upgrade your previous version to the latest), all the other packages are complete. So since you had the previous versions (through 2014), you should be able to get the $299 upgrade price for the UltraPlusPak. And if you wait a few months, there will most likely be the new 2018 version on sale where you might save even more. But you shouldn't have to pay "first-time" price. You don't have to have it already installed to install with one of the upgrade packages.
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Thanks, and you were correct, the upgrades are complete! I wrote to them and received this: We have confirmed that you have a previous version of Band-in-a-Box. Your most recent version was the 2014 version, as you mentioned in your e-mail, so you would then be looking at the upgrade pricing from "Upgrade from 2015 or earlier" pricing. You do not have to use the first time Purchase pricing.
http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.htm
We see that you had the UltraPlusPAK last time. if you wish to have the same amount of content we recommend upgrading to the UltraPlusPAK again, which would cost 299$USD, not including shipping. YAY!!! 
Last edited by rokq22; 09/29/17 11:11 AM.
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rokq22... Even though your older versions of the program are not up and running, you still qualify for upgrade pricing! Any "Upgrade from earlier" is a complete installation, so it will work fine for you!
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If you do upgrade, you will also now receive your own authorization code number which authorizes up to three installations concurrently (although it is expected that you use it only one at a time). BIAB 2014 did require authorization for installation, but since 2015 it has been required.
Additionally, when you register your number on the PGMusic "My Account" page, you will also have access to download versions of your purchase, broken down into bite size chunks. So if you ever have a problem with your USB drive, you can still download the content to re-install, or if certain files get corrupt, you can just download the content you need (for example, a specific RealTracks set).
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
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Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
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You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
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-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
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- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
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- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
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Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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