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Just got 2017 and am having quite a few issues - an example- I bring up an existing song - cut several bars - save it with a new title - and regenerate - chord page shows the changes, but it still plays the old version.
Also, if I'm using a quartet, say JAZFRED - and I change the guitar RT, it does not save/use this new choice.
Am I missing something here?
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Hi Pooch,
Expand the mixer to expose the audio track and either Mute the audio track or look at the audio track VU meters to see if the VU meters are displaying audio volume changes. Do the same for the solo or melody tracks (assuming you are not using solo and melody as instrument tracks). You may have an audio file loading and playing. This is most common when an audio file has the same name as the song project.
Also, what version did you upgrade from? There might be an operational difference between "the version you use to have" and 2017.
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Make sure there are NO frozen tracks as well.
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Right. If it isn't an audio file playing, then this sounds like you may be playing a song with frozen tracks. They would not reflect the changes you made.
When you change a RealTrack in a predefined style, save that style as a new name.
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Tracks are NOT frozen - when I use a 'combo' it's an audio file (all tracks merged - and cannot change individual RT, correct?) so when I edit a song that uses an audio file, I need to re-name the audio file ? How is that done?
This is an upgrade from 2012.
Thanks.
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... snip ... when I use a 'combo' it's an audio file (all tracks merged - and cannot change individual RT, correct?) Thanks. No, a combo is a group of instrument patches. Each instrument patch is loaded to its own individual track. You can confirm this by expanding the mixer and viewing the patch names on each track. You can change the instrument patch to any track. From 2012 to 2017 is quite the jump. The interface is very different. Make sure to remember the key combination "CNTRL + T" so you can switch between the expanded chord sheet view and icon view as needed. You might want to go through the release video highlights for 2013 to 2017 to kind of refresh yourself about how the program has changed over the five year interval. There are operational differences, enhanced program capability and new features to explore. Once you get accustomed to the changes, I think you're going to enjoy the program enhancements, changes and improvements. I much prefer the present interface and program stability to the way it was in 2011 when I first returned to Band-in-a-Box.
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OK - so if a song is using a 'combo/audio file' - and say I want to use a different guitar style, I have to mute the audio and actually choose new styles for ALL the instruments? Otherwise, the 'old' guitar will still play on the audio file as well as the newly chosen one... if that's the case, then any 'real combo' styles I choose I would have to do that ?
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Hi Pooch. A combo is not simply an audio file. It is a selection of individual instruments that can be midi, super midi, a combination of RealTracks and midi, a combination of RealTracks and supermidi, or all RealTracks. RealTracks are audio files. Regardless of what different combination instruments or midi/supermidi/RealTracks is - the combination of instruments is called a style.
Every style, regardless of its makeup, can be modified by replacing any instrument with any other instrument you choose. In other words, you do not have to replace a guitar with another guitar. You can choose any instrument. It doesn't even have to be a stringed instrument, it could be a piano, accordion, trumpet or Sax. You can create and save your own combo from scratch if you want to.
Knowing and understanding the concept of styles in BIAB will greatly enhance your benefits and fun. With BIAB, you can easily enter chords, select a tempo and time signature and choose from the thousands of available styles and have your song playing in 2-3 minutes with a complete band for backing tracks. You can easily replace instruments of a style with other instruments and make your own custom style for your song. Knowing the difference between even and swing styles is important as well as the difference between 8th notes and 16ths. But, you may find that an even 16th soloist guitar is perfect for your swing 8th song. The rules are not hard and fast.
You can spend a lot of time searching the hundreds of available instruments that may be midi, supermidi aor Real instruments to find the perfect instrument for your track. Knowing and understanding about the RealTrack Picker and Style Picker can help a lot in filtering your search down to a manageable level.
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OK - so if a song is using a 'combo/audio file' - and say I want to use a different guitar style, I have to mute the audio and actually choose new styles for ALL the instruments? Otherwise, the 'old' guitar will still play on the audio file as well as the newly chosen one... if that's the case, then any 'real combo' styles I choose I would have to do that ? I attempted to provide you a bit of definitions of BIAB terms before jumping to answer your specific question. To answer your questions: * According to how you search for a replacement guitar will determine what you hear. If you search using the Realtrack Picker, you can hear the instrument solo'd or included in a demo song. * If you search for a replacement guitar using the Style Picker, you also can hear the instrument solo'd or included in a demo song. But in addition to the standard options, using the Style Picker in BIAB, you can also hear another style playing over your chord progression. This advanced feature provides several cool benefits. First, you hear your song in a completely different style without altering your existing song or style. Another benefit, that I consider an advanced and efficient benefit, is you can audition a style and hear how another instrument (in this example, a guitar) will sound over your chord progression. And here is where the fun begins. As an example, say your current song is using the style 'Sparrow'. This style includes a RealTrack - RT692 played by Jason Roller. You can filter a search in the RealTracks Picker for Jason Roller. In my version of BIAB, this search yielded 63 total "Jason Roller" results, 5 of the results were mandolins so I've reduced my guitar search down to 58. Very manageable. The descriptions can also help you eliminate some choices. In my search, I quickly saw that RT 693 is a variation of Jason playing the same guitar but with a variation from A:sync to B: 8ths. I auditioned the B part and it was ideal to create a variation guitar part for my song. Completing a filtered search in the Style PIcker for "Jason Roller" and further filtering to Country (sparrow is a country genre), 4/4, ev8,120, RT - Yielded 60 styles. Again, very manageable. You can then audition the styles choosing the option to 'Play over your chord progression' and hear Jason Roller playing these various guitars in various styles to the chords, key and tempo of your song. Hope this helps to get you going. Charlie
Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 07/14/17 08:21 AM.
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Just got 2017 and am having quite a few issues - an example- I bring up an existing song... Pooch, lets stop right here with the quote above. What does your existing song consist of? Give us the exact details of it. Is this a song you created or was it downloaded? Bob
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The song is one I created on BIAB 2012 - is there a compatibility issue using a 2012 tune loaded into 2017? It's simple arrangement with RT guitar bass and drums - needed to cut about 24 bars at the end.
Regarding the 'Audio' track - how/why is this created?
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There are no compatibility problems between BIAB song files that I'm aware of. I'm still using some that I created long before 2006.
The audio track is created when the song is rendered to audio. This is a separate action and one that needs to be selected by the user. BIAB doesn't automatically save audio files from song files. There are options to "render", "save song as wav/mp3/wma" (etc.), "Save special" that will all render the BIAB backing to an audio file if the option is chosen.
If one doesn't need an audio file, then, in my opinion, it's best to stay with the default SGU or MGU file that is BIAB's native format.
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