|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444 |
Getting back into recording by kicking off this old gospel song. It Is No Secret Please give me your feedback - good/bad. Thank you. Paul
Last edited by PaulH; 07/16/17 05:28 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,491
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,491 |
Hey Paul,
I think the vocals here are great, and I love the mix.
I think it builds really well. I think the second verse and chorus flourishes and touches on the drums and guitar are really nice.
Wonderful job.
One observation, I think it takes too long for the vocals to come in at 46 seconds.
The ordinary listener may stumble across this on soundcloud and not listen because they think it is an instrumental.
Generally speaking, a song with vocals should have vocals start at 10 seconds (4 bar intro is standard) to attract more listeners.
Just a thought. Trying to be helpful.
Great performance and mix though.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 16,129
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 16,129 |
Nice mix! The build works well too.
I agree with David regarding the long intro. One would have no idea it was a vocal featured tune.
We enjoyed the listen and are curious as to your RT/RD choices....
Bud
Our albums and singles are on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora and more. If interested search on Janice Merritt. Thanks! Our Videos
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,687
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,687 |
Great vocal with a super mix. Fantastic message! Great job on that.
I also think that the intro was too long. Even with my instrumentals the most an intro should be is 4-8 measures depending on the tempo, i.e fast tempos can have an 8 measure intro.
OK, a random thought;
Why does toilet paper need a commercial? Who's not buying it?
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,330
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,330 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444 |
One observation, I think it takes too long for the vocals to come in at 46 seconds.
Thanks David, much appreciate your comments. That's interesting to learn. The song has a 2 bar intro then it comes straight into the chorus. I recorded the vocals with that in mind but then changed my mind as I liked the piano playing the chorus as an intro instead. I'll put my vocals back in and upload it and will post it up when it's done.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 8,647
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 8,647 |
Hello Paul,
My mother (alan) used to sing this to me all the time when I was just a kid, Of course, she did the more traditional version. I've always liked this song a lot.
The long instrumental opening might leave the first listener thinking it was an instrumental. But, the build and layering was really nice. Good job!
Alan & Di
BIAB 2024 Ultra Plus-all StylePaks*Win11*32GB DDR5*Rhyzen 9745x*AT 2035 Mic*Peavey Nashville 112 Amp*Ibanez ART120* Acoustic/Electric/Washburn D200S Acoustic*Stromberg Monterey Jazz Guitar Loops: https://aldavidmusic.wixsite.com/bestmusicloops
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444 |
Nice mix! ...curious as to your RT/RD choices.... Thanks Bud for your encouragement. I spent ages on the mix and technically influenced by the series Nashville and their song arrangements. I used "_LAMENT.STY Lament Modern Pop Country Ballad" EzKeys for piano and shakers My Takamine guitar Edited in Studio One 3 Regards Paul
Last edited by PaulH; 07/16/17 11:29 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444 |
Great vocal with a super mix. Fantastic message! Great job on that.
I also think that the intro was too long. Even with my instrumentals the most an intro should be is 4-8 measures depending on the tempo, i.e fast tempos can have an 8 measure intro. Thanks Mario I'll make a note of that so in the future I don't make intros too long. I'll also be editing this song again to put the vocals back in where there is an intro currently. Thanks for your encouragement. Paul
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444 |
Hello Paul,
My mother (alan) used to sing this to me all the time when I was just a kid, Of course, she did the more traditional version. I've always liked this song a lot.
The long instrumental opening might leave the first listener thinking it was an instrumental. But, the build and layering was really nice. Good job!
Alan & Di Thank you. Yes I have taken note of the unison advice that the intro was too long and will upload a revised version soon. Thanks again Paul
Last edited by PaulH; 07/16/17 11:34 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,647
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,647 |
Paul
Nice mix - good arrangement and pleasant vocals.
Peter
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 3,007
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 3,007 |
While I generally agree with everyone here that vocals should come in a little sooner, there's a song I think of right off the bat that is one of my all times favourites that has a very long intro. Vocals don't make an appearance in the song until about two minutes in (it's a ( 9:47 in length, I think! ). Some songs can rock the long intro!
Anyways, I really dig this song and really enjoy it, so keep up the great work!
Last edited by Ember - PG Music; 07/17/17 07:10 AM.
Cheers,
Ember
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,679
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,679 |
Nice song, great vocal.
Sergio
Sergio
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444 |
Paul
Nice mix - good arrangement and pleasant vocals.
Peter Thank you, you know its very reassuring because I really do struggle with my voice and do everything in my power to make it as best as I can, yet I am so self conscience and never feel its good enough. strange how we see ourselves isnt it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444 |
Nice song, great vocal.
Sergio
Thank you
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444 |
...I really dig this song and really enjoy it, so keep up the great work! Thank you. I'm going to try and record some worship songs in my next project, up until now they have been old country songs plus three of my own.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664 |
Hi Paul Haynes, Very inspiring song! Really enjoyed the piano parts and progressions. Well done! 
Cheers,
Joe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,052
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,052 |
Hey Paul,
I think the vocals here are great, and I love the mix.
I think it builds really well. I think the second verse and chorus flourishes and touches on the drums and guitar are really nice.
Wonderful job.
One observation, I think it takes too long for the vocals to come in at 46 seconds.
The ordinary listener may stumble across this on soundcloud and not listen because they think it is an instrumental.
Generally speaking, a song with vocals should have vocals start at 10 seconds (4 bar intro is standard) to attract more listeners.
Just a thought. Trying to be helpful.
Great performance and mix though.
Agreed! Nicely done. There is nothing wrong with a long intro, particularly with a slow ambient song where you are building the mood. However, in a song like this, 10-15 seconds is plenty to set it up. Very nice song and good vocal/arrangement! Take care. Greg
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 444 |
Thank you all for taking the time to pass on some generous encouragement - I appreciate that.
Let me share what I don't about this song...
1. I think my voice is a little lifeless, it's lacking something dynamically.
2. I'm trying not to hide behind reverb but at the same time the recording still sounds like a home recording, despite trying otherwise.
3. Whilst the bass is deep enough, it's not as thick as I prefer. I've had to tone it down cause it was too heavy and overwhelming. I like the Nashville bass levels.
4. I don't like the ending, the bass needs to be sustains for longer as it all goes a bit thin.
5. I would have liked to have had a separate kick drum as a channel as I would want to hear the kick more without increasing the rest of the drums.
6. I was going for a more upbeat version 65bpm to this otherwise slow song but I'm wondering if it feels a bit rushed?
7. The recording doesn't sound clean enough for me, not like the pro's produce.
Last edited by Paul Haynes; 07/18/17 10:52 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac Videos
With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.
Whether you're exploring new features, checking out the latest RealTracks or Style PAKs, this is your go-to guide for Band-in-a-Box® 2026.
Check out this forum post for "One Stop Shopping" of our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Videos!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 100 new features in this exciting release.
Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until May 15, 2026. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49.
Holiday Weekend Hours
As we hop into the Easter weekend, here are our holiday hours:
April 3 (Good Friday): 8:00 AM – 4:00 PM PDT
April 4 (Saturday): Closed
April 5 (Easter Sunday): Closed
April 6 (Easter Monday): Open regular hours
Wishing you an egg-cellent weekend!
— Team PG
Update to Build 10 of RealBand® 2026 for Windows®!
If you're already using RealBand 2026 for Windows, download build 10 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!
If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!
Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
PowerTracks Pro 2026 for Windows is Here!
PowerTracks 2026 is here—bringing powerful new enhancements designed to make your production workflow faster, smoother, and more intuitive than ever.
The enhanced Mixer now shows Track Type and Instrument icons for instant track recognition, while a new grid option simplifies editing views. Non-floating windows adopt a modern title bar style, replacing the legacy blue bar.
The Master Volume is now applied at the end of the audio chain for consistent levels and full-signal master effects.
Tablature now includes a “Save bends when saving XML” option for improved compatibility with PG Music tools. Plus, you can instantly match all track heights with a simple Ctrl-release after resizing, and Add2 chords from MGU/SGU files are now fully supported... and more!
Get started today—first-time packages start at just $49.
Already using PowerTracks Pro Audio? Upgrade for as little as $29 and enjoy the latest improvements!
Order now!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,180
Posts801,701
Members40,062
| |
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean