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I already signalled this in may 2016, but the fast bebop brushes by Danny Gottlieb stumble in the B-substyle. It's out of sync. This is a bug and should be corrected. I saw a lot of updates, but this hasn't been corrected yet. It only occurs with the 220 BPM sample.
A "solution" is to delete the 220 BPM substyle in the fast bebop brushes folder. The RD style then automatically selects the 280 BPM substyle. Sad thing is that for "slower" bebop it isn't as cool as the 220 wavs.
Some members suggested I correct this myself, using Realband and cutting up the wav-files. I don't see myself doing that. And moreover, it doesn't occur with other styles. What if we bought all the styles, mistakes and all, and where expected to correct them ourselves...? This is an absurd idea.
Please pgmusic, correct this.
Biab, Kontakt, Sampletank and lots of nice libraries, from Fluffy audio to Abbey Road drums. Check out these great contemporary Jazz Styles: www.jazzstylezz.com
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I think the DIY solution was suggested because of what has happened, nothing.
If you could let me know what bar/s are out I can correct it with Reaper stretch markers then upload it.
Or, you can wait and PG might hire Danny again to record another or might not ???
The B section starts @ 103
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Dzjang,
Back in May when you reported the issue, did you provide PG Music with a SGU or MGU file that plays the error and then freeze the Drums track so PG Music can identify where the problem exists within the RealDrums track?
A SGU file with a frozen track with a description of the bar numbers where the problem occurs seems to be very helpful.
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@pipeline: thx for the nice suggestion, but being a problem every user should encounter, I think pgmusic should correct this for everyone. The reasons I am so mad about it are: - The tracks are really cooking: every user who's into practicing jazz would enjoy this fast bebop playing.
- There's so little variety in the rhythm sections. Being into jazz, I get tons of "different styles", but with often the same drum and bass lines. If you're a pianist or guitarist, that's too bad and is tiring. There must be 40 jazz waltz styles in the 100-160 BPM range, but only 4 different drum and bass lines. After practicing chorus after chorus for years on a daily basis and you hear the bass or drums play the same old licks, it makes you want to break something.
- It's a problem that is easily fixed. Maybe I could fix it, using Pipeline's suggestion in Ableton
- Pg music has the luxury of hiring top musicians, so the product should be every bit,as excellent as their playing. Which it mostly is! Just not here.
@Jim Fogle: Thx for the suggestion. I thought they picked up on the forum discussions and, since it's easy to reproduce (just a song with a b-section, works every time, or should i say: fails every time) I guessed this wasn't needed. But maybe there should be some kind of a procedure for it. I'd gladly welcome a form where you can upload songs to signal problems. Sorry for the harsh tone, just a little frustrated here, 
Biab, Kontakt, Sampletank and lots of nice libraries, from Fluffy audio to Abbey Road drums. Check out these great contemporary Jazz Styles: www.jazzstylezz.com
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Wow, you looked it up! Thx.
you went to great lengths to improve stuff.
But... Nevertheless.. it shouldn't be up to the customer, should it? A shared frustration.
But then again, it opens up possibilities for a new nortonmusic.com or an upgraded one with some great user styles or improved factory styles. :))
Biab, Kontakt, Sampletank and lots of nice libraries, from Fluffy audio to Abbey Road drums. Check out these great contemporary Jazz Styles: www.jazzstylezz.com
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Maybe Norton can start selling some RealDrums ? There's some here https://www.drumdrops.com/downloads?q=bebopfrom $1.69 that you can create your own set with. https://www.esoundz.com/sounds/r-a-w-style-pak-jazz-grooves/1940.htmlMSRP: $49.00 Your Price: $5.00 Jazz Grooves This Style Pak offers a selection of acoustic Jazz drum rhythms with Swing ride beats, brush grooves, Big Band drumming and more, performed by drummers (like Danny Gottlieb) who have played with Jazz legends such as Pat Metheny, Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea and more. It’s ideal for many styles of music such as Jazz, Acid Jazz, Trip Hop, Film Scoring and other genres. Features over 430 Jazz and Big Band style acoustic drum kit grooves (each in Rex, Apple Loops and Acidized Wave formats) for flexibility and ease of use! Contents: 200 previously unavailable drum grooves from Jazz legend Danny Gottlieb (Pat Metheny Group, Herbie Hancock, Sting, Chick Corea, Mike Stern) Over 230 Big Band and Jazz style grooves performed by various session drummers with sticks and brushes. Includes acoustic drum loops in tempos of 70, 100, 120, 180, 240 BPM and more. Features top quality 24-bit studio recorded drums for the ultimate realism in your track. Guide: http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=419814
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