Originally Posted By: MarioD
Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn


I don't have time to properly address all your misinformation so I'll just cover two and leave you to soak in the rest of it.

Explaining Chicago is the simplest one of all but I'll do it for you in case you are truly unable to figure it out. From Chicago you can drive a half hour in any direction except east and buy guns. Then you just turn the car around and drive back to Chicago! Not all that complicated.

And regarding gun shows you absolutely do not require a background check to buy from anyone there who is not a registered dealer. It is called the gun show loophole; maybe you've heard of it? Likewise, you can buy online and there are gun nut websites that work a lot like Craigslist where thousands of such transactions occur, all with no background checks!


The Chicago thing is an Illinois and other state's issue.

The point is Chicago does not have a gun problem because they outlawed guns, rather, they have a gun problem because the bad guys who live there can easily hop in their cars, drive a few minutes and purchase guns. I know the gun crowd loves to point to Chicago as if somehow it proves gun laws don't work but all it proves is guns can still be obtained easily just minutes away. On the other hand, countries that have banned certain types of guns have seen dramatic decrease in the gun violence.

Originally Posted By: MarioD
I am a gun owner however myself and other gun owners that I know do not always side with the NRA. For example we do not need or want silencers to be available to the public.

I know plenty of gun owners who share your reasonable view on silencers. They also support mandatory background checks on ALL gun purchases or transfers. So I think there is definitely middle ground that all could agree on but the NRA opposes all of it.