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I say keep 'em. It's not like you hear them every time you turn on the radio, or even on the decade specific Sirius/XM radio channels.
I've never changed the channel because one of these songs comes on occasionally.
And maybe playing them introduces them to a new generation. If you want to retire a song, then retire the theme from "Titanic". My "heart will go on" even if I never have to hear this song again. (Showing my bias, yes I am! I actually liked it the first thousand times or so I heard it on the radio; now I cringe).
But hey, maybe that's just me.
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... I actually liked it the first thousand times or so I heard it on the radio; now I cringe I hear you loud and clear. However, agree that some of those songs are absolute classics. Keep them all. That's what the station selector is for.
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OH NO!! Not FREEBIRD!!!
Seriously I urp,gurrgle,aargh,cough,cough ACK...
Sorry, someone threw a tomato at me and it stuck in my throat. I actually had to play the friggin thing last summer. Here's my list of true clunkers, this is from the perspective of a gigging musician:
Brown Eyed Girl Mustang Sally La Bamba Wooly Booly Margeritaville THE CHICKEN DANCE Louie Louie Wild Thing Feelings Gloria Suzie Q Johnny B Goode Satisfaction ANY 50's ballads with ice cream changes.
Unfortunately these types of songs comprise about 80% of the Biab songs you find on the internet.
There's more but I have to go wash my mouth out.
This is not to say if someone puts a twenty in the jar and requests one of these? Well...
Yes I will hate myself in the morning.
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OK, agree. Chicken Dance (and Hokey Pokey) HAVE to go. They're not actually musical songs anyway, are they?
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My solution: the songs stay, But *I* retire
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OK, agree. Chicken Dance (and Hokey Pokey) HAVE to go. They're not actually musical songs anyway, are they? I totally agree! Also retire anything that is rap  They're not actually musical songs anyway, are they 
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This list reminds me why I stopped listening to the radio. It's a mix of stuff I just don't like, and stuff I once loved that I heard so much that I stopped liking. Examples on the list are Yesterday and Free Bird - absolutely incredible songs, but after hearing them multiple times a days for years - not so much!
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Also retire anything that is rap  They're not actually musical songs anyway, are they Yeah, I hear ya. Remember Snoop Dogs famous quote: "If you don't like something, it wasn't made for you." Not much in the modern world is made for us anymore but luckily when it comes to music even though rap is huge there's still plenty of good music for us old guys out there. Bob
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Brown Eyed Girl Mustang Sally La Bamba Wooly Booly Margeritaville THE CHICKEN DANCE Louie Louie Wild Thing Feelings Gloria Suzie Q Johnny B Goode Satisfaction
To that I will add Moondance, At Last (I have NEVER heard that song done without the girl singer over emoting for effect, like "Oh look how soulful my white self is!!), ANYTHING by Jimmy Buffet, ANYTHING by Journey (because nobody has a singer who can do it justice), Play That Funky Music White Boy, Paradise by the Dashboard Light, ANY Skynard, not just Freebird. ANYTHING by Kiss. Learn a 4th chord already!
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I don't retire anything that people still want to hear.
I don't listen to some of the songs people say were overplayed every day, but when I do hear them, it's like visiting an old friend I haven't seen for a while.
But I don't listen to the radio anymore very much. I have a digital Walkman with over 10,000 songs on it culled from my CD, LP, and Amazon/iTunes/etc. Download libraries. I listen to this when I'm in the car. No song appears too often.
And some songs stand the test of time for me better than others.
When gigging, there are songs we rarely play unless they are requested, and many of those don't get requested often any more. We will also pull them out if we think it's just the right thing to play at the time, but for those songs, that is even rarer.
As far as Alley Cat is concerned, it pretty much died on it's own. Chicken Dance rears it's head up a few times a year, and so does Yakety Sax. Once the music starts and the part of the brain goes that thinks words goes dormant it's just music and we enjoy playing them anyway.
But I wouldn't want to play the Chicken Dance every day.
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It should be a Capital offence to want to sing or worse,want ME to sing My Way at any of my gigs. There's always someone off their face at a Wedding who thinks he's the new Sinatra. Its a dull tune at best and would have sunk without trace (like the equally dull Titanic tune)if a non-name had released it. I have upward of 200 BTs in my Flipflop and it doesnt include either. Ah I feel much better now. WendyM
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OH NO!! Not FREEBIRD!!!
Seriously I urp,gurrgle,aargh,cough,cough ACK...
Sorry, someone threw a tomato at me and it stuck in my throat. I actually had to play the friggin thing last summer. Here's my list of true clunkers, this is from the perspective of a gigging musician:
Brown Eyed Girl Mustang Sally La Bamba Wooly Booly Margeritaville THE CHICKEN DANCE Louie Louie Wild Thing Feelings Gloria Suzie Q Johnny B Goode Satisfaction ANY 50's ballads with ice cream changes.
Unfortunately these types of songs comprise about 80% of the Biab songs you find on the internet.
There's more but I have to go wash my mouth out.
This is not to say if someone puts a twenty in the jar and requests one of these? Well...
Yes I will hate myself in the morning.
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....At Last (I have NEVER heard that song done without the girl singer over emoting for effect, like "Oh look how soulful my white self is!!)...
...Etta James too white?, What are you smoking in that enclosed RV?  Larry
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....At Last (I have NEVER heard that song done without the girl singer over emoting for effect, like "Oh look how soulful my white self is!!)...
...Etta James too white?, What are you smoking in that enclosed RV?  Larry The girls in the bands covering it are white trying to sound black and soulful by over emoting. I was never a fan of that song anyway. Wasn't that the only thing Etta James was ever known for? I heard it once and this little white girl sang "My love - mylovemylovemylove has come along". I ALMOST sent up a note telling her to stick to "Walkin' On Sunshine" (Another song that should be on that list) or some other such marshmallow fluff. I have like 2000 CDs and 35gb of music on a hard drive and I NEVER listen to music anymore. I won't listen to the 22 minutes of music and 38 minutes of advertising per hour that is commercial radio so that's out.... Once in a while I watch a video of a concert but pretty much music has run its course for me. I tried to listen to our country station yesterday in the car, but they played 2 songs and then 12 minutes of commercials and DJ drivel so I gave up.
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I'm laughing my butt off. Nothing like listing a bunch of old crap songs to get things going.
Notes, I'm a very commercial guy. If the gig calls for it I'll do it. I'll hate it but I'll do it and everyone will think I love it too. Even when I did (lowers voice to a whisper) Freebird, everybody thought I was really getting into it. I'm such a BS artist...I'm also a very old school type going back to my literally starving musician days. I never, ever, turn down a gig unless I'm already booked. I'm still afraid I'll get a bad rep you know? So yeah, I'll do all these tunes if I must. Luckily I haven't had to in some time now. Someone wanted Brown Eyed Girl a while back so we did it. Talk about being on automatic pilot...
No, I'm not doing retirement homes yet. I could and a friend even gave me a list of contacts to call but I'm still thinking about that one. My latest claim to umm fame in addition to my jazz gigs is a classic rock group that's pretty decent. They do some pretty good stuff with lots of keyboards like Santana, Joe Cocker, Spencer Davis, The Doors, etc. Still old, still overplayed but I have fun doing my best Greg Rollie impression.
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this whole discussion has served to clarify why I lost the desire to play music. Not just because the average list of songs ends up becoming toxic to the musicians who play them for years... but radio and streaming have made the audiences every bit as jaded and inclined to roll their eyes unless they get to hear whatever music THEY like.
If Spotify and Pandora have accomplished anything at all, it is to expand the musical awareness of the masses to the point that any given audience's musical taste is so diverse that it's become impossible to prepare a widely accepted set list.
So people create their own unique play lists, listen from private devices with ear buds, and have little tolerance for live music anymore.
Which explains why people like us participate in forum discussions about selling our instruments.
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I did not lose my desire to play music. I did lose my desire to play out because when you do that you must play what the customer wants and not what you want to play, otherwise you will not get many gigs. Now I play what I want when I want and I'm loving it. YMMV
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I was never a big radio listener. I always played the same vinyls, cassettes, CDs or MP3s--as the times shifted--over and over again. I always bought albums of the artists I liked, usually because a friend showed me. It wasn't until the last few years that youtube started becoming my main source for listening to music while at home. I like looking up a song that I know and love and letting the other videos load.
I guess, for me personally, a song cannot be played too many times. I do not stop enjoying it after the 1000th listen. If I love the song, I adore it and it stays in my library (I refer to it as my "musical diary") with all the other stuff I've collected and kept since I was twelve.
Funny enough, I have Freebird on my iPod.
The one radio station I do enjoy is KSQM fm.
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We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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