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Hugh2 #433305 10/13/17 11:42 AM
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Hi John
I got this email and I cant link it to you but if you log on its there.Its the bundle not the Production Suite so basically as far as I can see without the RX Standard.Hugh

You spoke, we listened: We've lowered the upgrade price for O8N2 Bundle

Effective today through October 31, you can now upgrade to the O8N2 Bundle for the introductory price of $199. The O8N2 Bundle includes Ozone 8 Advanced, Neutron 2 Advanced, and the new Tonal Balance Control plug-in. You still have the option of getting the Music Production Suite with RX 6 Standard for $299.

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Hi Lambada,
I think their is enough difference between the last Ozone and Nuetron to the O8N2 to upgrade.Am impressed especially with the ability to copy a reference track and not to have to worry about getting the final Volume correct,you can just copy some one elses lol.Also you have a better idea how the master is going to come out before you actually do it as Ozone and Neutron begin to communicate but the one I like the very most is the Visual Plugin where the panning plan is all on one visual and u can change where everything is straight away and also change the stereo with of all tracks so easy,Hugh

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Hi Also did find one fault with Izotope is the customer service,not even in the same ball park as Pgmusic.Pgmusic sets the bench mark for customer service,really impressive and the helpful forum members Hugh

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Originally Posted By: Hugh2
Hi John,
Wait off its definitely gone down from 299 to 199 for the upgrade.I think I got an email saying "we listened to you".I'l check see where that link is and come back to you,I tried to buy today at 199 but had a problem with address verification,Hug

Thanks Hugh!

Yes, please post the link when you can. I'd love to save an extra $100! (Of course, that will go to PG in a couple of months!)

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I just checked again after loggin in and they are not giving me the offer for $199...dunno why.

Further, I thought maybe I'd just go ahead with the Music Production Bundle 2 offer at $299 since it appeares to contain O8/N2 along with several others. But, when I add that to my cart it then indicates this bundle includes O7/N1 instead of the latest.

Thoroughly confused now and might not buy anything. Nice going Izotope!

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Hi John
I logged in to my account by pressing "my account" email and password and then I went to upgrade coupon then I got a list of coupons and the first had this on it

Loyalty Crossgrade from Music Production Bundle 2
Reg. $299
$199 USD through October 31, 2017

Crossgrade to the O8N2 Bundle and get both Ozone 8 Advanced, Neutron 2 Advanced, and the Tonal Balance Control plug-in that connects them both for a seamless mixing and mastering workflow.

THE Coupon had a "buy now" option.Hope that works Hugh

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Hi Hugh,

I logged into my account and clicked Upgrade Coupons but the deal they are offering me is different. Maybe because I own Ozone 7 Advanced, Nectar 2 Suite and Music Production Bundle 1 but not previously owned Neutron nor Music Production Bundle 2. I have several offers but this is the best O8/N2 offer I have,

Loyalty Crossgrade from Advanced Products
Reg. $699
$299 USD through October 31, 2017
Crossgrade to the O8N2 Bundle and get both Ozone 8 Advanced, Neutron 2 Advanced, and the Tonal Balance Control plug-in that connects them both for a seamless mixing and mastering workflow.

They are also offering me an upgrade to Music Production Bundle 2 but that appears to contain O7 and others I already have. The confusing part is when you click the ReadMore link on the Music Production Bundle 2 link it takes you to the current Music Production Suite (with O8/N2)!

So, it looks like the best I am gonna get is O8/N2 for $299.

Thanks so much for your help!

-John

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Yes, their email to me was quite apologetic for the confusion. I think the $299 deal is worthwhile for Nector 2 Suite which has far more functionality than Nector standard. I'm a bit pissed that RX standard is no different. It would have been nice to throw in the Advanced RX, still I didn't realise you can use RX to alter tracks (like iZotope Trash) rather than just fixed problems. RX advanced looks very special (but isn't included). Ozone 8 advanced and Neutron 2 advanced seem worthwhile in themselves and I suspect getting the suite will place us in a better position for other upgrades. Who knows. Still $299 is quite a hefty output... I just don't won't to have to put up with poor quality mixing and mastering given my limited knowledge and ability. It's priceless if you love writing songs and producing them. Same as I always shell out for BIAB/Realband. Plenty of junk around here I never use!:-)

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Hey, I now get both of these offers!
Buy Now
Loyalty Crossgrade from Music Production Bundle 2
Reg. $299

$199 USD through October 31, 2017
Crossgrade to the O8N2 Bundle and get both Ozone 8 Advanced, Neutron 2 Advanced, and the Tonal Balance Control plug-in that connects them both for a seamless mixing and mastering workflow.

(O8N2 combines two award-winning product lines for mixing and mastering with new futuristic metering and analysis tools. Get Neutron 2 Advanced, Ozone 8 Advanced, and Tonal Balance Control, the industry’s first visual analysis tool that allows you to control any instance of Ozone 8 or Neutron 2 Equalizer across your session.)


Upgrade from Music Production Bundle 2
Reg. $499
$299 USD through October 31, 2017

Upgrade to Music Production Suite and get new products including Ozone 8 Advanced, Neutron 2 Advanced, and RX 6 Standard.

Log into iZotope and see what they offer you Hugh.

(Music Production Suite combines six of the most powerful music production tools in iZotope’s portfolio—Ozone 8 Advanced, Neutron 2 Advanced, RX 6 Standard, VocalSynth, Nectar 2 Production Suite, and Trash 2 Expanded—into a go-to collection of the industry’s best mixing, mastering, vocal production, and audio repair tools. Includes 34 plug-ins!)

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I went the $299 path (sigh).


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Well, having downloaded it and played around a bit, I have to say it's amazing, except for the fact that my poor (not very) old PC keeps freezing and locking up. The processor and memory seem fine. Admittedly, I've got Neutron 2 on every track and Ozone 8 on the Master and Neutron 2 visual mixing in Reaper but could be I need some more RAM or a better processor? cry I'll have a play with the BIOS options and get a bit more grunt out of it.... wink Reaper has about 80 threads running (whatever they are) and my E drive (which is USB connected) is at 100%. Not sure why?

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Bounce each of the tracks with Neutron to audio.

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Yep. Matt you are right sir.

I have a pretty good set up but on my more "adventurous" stuff that can have up to 48 tracks (all with VSTs going), I have to do it in two stages with effects.

1. I start with no effects, and just put the effects I need (no master bus effects mind you) on the instrument tracks and get a perfect mix of that bed then export.

2. I do the same with vocals.

3.) I go to a mastering template. I either do:

A.) A mix of vocal bed and instrument bed

B.) A mix of instrument bed with 3 or four vocal tracks using different effects on those different vocals tracks.

C. A and B plus I may double the drums or guitar, or whatever seems to have gotten lost in the mix.

Adding last minute effects to these beds, or the master, judiciously, I am able to get the sound I want and the computer doesn't crash.

Pus it sounds much cleaner and crisper.

Plus, if I decide six months I want to change the mix six months later, I am fiddling with four or five tracks max (sometimes only 2 or 3) and not 48.

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Thanks for the example confirming this, David. I get one right every few years.

[By 'export', David is saying the same thing - save the track with effects to audio, which in effect freezes the track but removes the load on the processor for the real-time processing of effects on that track. This is referred to as 'bounce to track'. I like to do that for each track since many individual audio tracks do not stress the processor since there are no effects. Then mute each of the original tracks with effects but save them with the project in case of future adjustment. Work only with audio tracks from there on, and put the final effects on the master bus.]


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I bounce to tracks all of my MIDI tracks to audio tracks and all of my audio tracks with my final effects.

Also I never use the individual effects that are included with many VSTis and MIDI tracks. I use dry tracks when I bounce to tracks. This way all of my effects are from similar sources. This is especially helpful when if pertains to reverb. Individual track reverbs can be very different but when the tracks are bounced dry I can use the same reverb for all tracks.
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