|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497 |
Cakewalk had (has?) been doing that (putting crapola everywhere and redundantly making folders all over BOOT drive) since Sonar version (5 or 6?, I forget it was right at Win Vista) - that was when CW and I started drifting apart
Larry
Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697 |
Thanks Larry. I was at my house all day and haven't installed anything yet, just did the downloads. I appreciate the detailed explanations I'm sure when I actually install this stuff it will become clear.
Bob
Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778 |
I'll have to double check, Larry, but it seems that when I look at the Independence Pro folder it read (in Windows) 69 point something GB, so pretty close to 70 GB.
Also, if you want to install on a second machine, just copy the downloaded Independence content over to the other machine, then run the installer and select the 3rd option (which is the content is already on your hard drive).
Also, it looks like you can only authorize Spectralayers on one machine.
I'm also having problems getting SoundForge Pro to run on my Windows 7 machine, but I suspect it's getting confused initializing the sound cards, so I'll do some more troubleshooting (removing the FastTrack Pro and letting it find the built-in sound, then adding FastTrack Pro back in after configuring for the internal card).
Otherwise, everything does seem to work, but I need to learn it. And I need to see if I can specify multiple VST folders, or if I have to move everything to my standard location. I'll report back on that.
One thing I did do was move all the downloaded EXE's to my second machine and installed using them (rather than starting with the program downloader) and everything installed just fine, so I didn't have to wait for that 30GB to download again.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 8TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 11TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting and construction)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497 |
John
I've installed, run, and registered all three programs (SAM, SF, and, Spectra) on BOTH Win 10 and Win 7 no issues. And like I said elsewhere, I already know where I dorked up - so moving the large sample folder around is easy
BUT can you PLEASE tell me how many ytif's is it MORE than 76? and how many more
and can you report The TOTAL size your Ind. Pro sample folder (since I doubt you installed to C)
but it WOULD have been this folder for a default install
"C:\Program Files (x86)\MAGIX\Independence Pro\"
EDIT
Homer says "DOH!" (look at the RIGHT "number" and not be LAZY like me and look at ONLY the FIRST number)
Computer reports 64.8 GB but that is really 64.8*(1024)**3 bytes OR 69,578,470,195.+ a hair BYTES
and I have "Size 64.8GB (69,608,811,640)"
and "Size on disk 64.8 GB (69,616,664,576 bytes)"
SO I suspect you have 76 ytif's no more no less (all the other files are noise)
NEVER MIND!
Larry
Last edited by Larry Kehl; 12/11/17 06:58 AM.
Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778 |
I'm pretty sure it was 76 files, but I will check tonight after work.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 8TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 11TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting and construction)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697 |
Larry, everybody I know (who also happens to be 60 to 70 years old) all say the older I get, the busier I get. No rest for the wicked and all that rot.
I haven't figured out yet if that's because we're really that busy or we've just lost the ability to multitask...all I know is I continually feel like the proverbial one-armed paperhanger and it's sooo easy to miss highly technical details like we're talking about now. Gotta slow down a bit and pay attention...but, but I'm running out for a doctors appointment, gotta return my daughters call, gotta prepare for the Christmas party, gotta leak in the right front tire, gottadothis, gottadothat...
And of course the most important thing: Gotta have some fun on this forum with our new toys. Yay!
Bob
Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497 |
Did you have fun waiting for Independence Pro download? LOL
FWIW: it seems you can interrupt and it will pick back up - however, I DID NOT test this, but a newbie (like us) on the MAGIX forum reported that he had to stop it and later he picked it backup where he was so.... - buyer beware I guess
Larry
Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778 |
I did test starting and stopping the download (not by choice - I came in to check on the status and it reported failure - so you just click on "keep what you've got" and start the utility again), and it worked. With my internet, it took a good couple of days to download everything. I then just copied those files over to my other machine and selected the "I have the files" option there. That took just a couple of minutes.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 8TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 11TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting and construction)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778 |
Larry -
A couple of things. The Independence Library does report 64.8GB, but as you said, that's 69 billion bytes, so I suspect that's where the 70GB came from. Also, there are only 76 files.
One nugget I found was when you download all the links you were provided, even though the Samplitude installer also installs SoundForge, if you launch the separate Soundforge installer, it will also get you a copy of Magix Music Maker (a low end DAW) as a little bonus. You might have missed it if you just did the Samplitude install and thought you didn't need to launch Soundforge because it was already installed.
Also, I did get Soundforge to run properly by setting it to run in Windows XP SP3 compatibility mode.
Getting close to having it as I want it and then can start working with it.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 8TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 11TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting and construction)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497 |
Good to know about the separate Soundforge install (I already had a copy of that program a few years ago - I FORGET how or why so no need to re-get it)
As to the installers, there about 1GB of installers downloaded from the email links after they are run (and you already found those). I KEPT those (backed up) so I never have to re-download those, as well as the ~70 GB (yes 70 - LOL) of the ind. pro \images and \layers content folders, - that 70 GB is the PITA
I'm wonder why you have to run Sonundforge in XP mode? I'm running in whatever the default was/is (I need to reboot into 7 to see)
I'm bouncing back and forth between FL12, Studio One Pro and now Samplitude plus all the included goodies so am not really focused on details yet in the later
Larry
Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778 |
Actually, when you download the additional content (all the Vita stuff), you end up with about 10GB of download, in addition to the 70GB. All is backed upon on "installation USB drive" (I have all my installation files, nicely categorized, for all my software on an almost full 1.5TB USB drive, backed up to another one, of course, along with a spreadsheet that tracks versions, serial numbers, installation notes, site and forum logins, etc.). It's been a lifesaver the couple of times I've had to do a clean install.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 8TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 11TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting and construction)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497 |
Yea I meant to type "10" GB not "1" for the installers And I also keep EVERYTHING (triple) redundantly backup (images), or copied, or both - and one full copy of all files and images is maintained by me off-site (out of house) and I do not mean in the idiotic cloud. You HAVE ZERO control over availability, reliability, or accessibility of anything you put on ANY cloud, unless you physically WORK at, and have physical access to, the various cloud server farm locations. I'm a (sort of semi-retired) senior scientific analyst (and you can't spell the last word without the first four letters  !) Larry
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497 |
Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778 |
Yep, I got the notice when I launched it yesterday.
I'll be playing seriously with it the next couple of days on a project I'm doing for my parents' 60th Wedding Anniversary.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 8TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 11TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting and construction)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497 |
Good luck and tell them Congrats!
(My Brother is in Hawaii with wife doing their 50th)
Larry
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497 |
FYI it's been extended to 26 Dec, I assume there were enough moths to the flame (like me) to make it worth while. I see a new Samplitude X4 coming with a not so inexpensive upgrade price - but that's OK Larry EDIT Link was in first post on this thread but I'll repeat it here http://www.magix.com/index.php?id=24739&...uikyuI1i8dKzA7h
Last edited by Larry Kehl; 12/21/17 11:19 AM.
Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,685
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,685 |
I have looked and don't see it can you post a link please
win 10 64 bit 16gb,i7 chip, ssd 500gb, m-audio air, ,Roland BK-7M, 1000,shure sm7b,sonar,acid,mixcraft, variety of plugins.Sample tank 3,Kontakt. TC Helicon Voicelive 3 2 . https://beatmaster1.bandcamp.com/releases
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,778 |
I got this link from a recent email from MAGIX.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 8TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 11TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting and construction)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,685
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,685 |
win 10 64 bit 16gb,i7 chip, ssd 500gb, m-audio air, ,Roland BK-7M, 1000,shure sm7b,sonar,acid,mixcraft, variety of plugins.Sample tank 3,Kontakt. TC Helicon Voicelive 3 2 . https://beatmaster1.bandcamp.com/releases
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Season's Greetings!
Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!
The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.
Team PG
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window
In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,441
Posts792,033
Members39,886
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean