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I seem to still have some baggage in my root directory with various dates going back to 1996. I'd like to be able to delete them but I'm not sure if they're files which are required by Band in a Box, or just files that somehow got there along the way over the years.

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I don't know if there is a listing, but if you you got a USB drive, you might want to look at the BB folder on that drive and compare it to your hard drive installation.

I would then move the extra files off to another location and see if it breaks anything.


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I just did exactly what John described. After 25 years I had many folders I had created and did not remember which ones were factory and which ones were mine.


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I don't know if there is a listing, but if you you got a USB drive, you might want to look at the BB folder on that drive and compare it to your hard drive installation.

I would then move the extra files off to another location and see if it breaks anything.
Unfortunately I don't have a USB drive installation, I just downloaded the upgrades

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Hence my early unanswered question "Where is the best place to store user styles". Having my user styles mixed with PG styles seems not ideal but at least they are listed in the style picker. I do have a naming convention but with good olde DOS eight character file naming that is difficult. I would like a folder say "UserStyles" or similar. I tried that but could not find them in the style picker. My songs are fine they live on another drive and that opens by default.

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That is a very valid wishlist. Prior to 2018, you could store styles in either the main BB folder or in a folder called Styles. My personal preference was to store all the PGMusic provided styles in the main BB folder, and then any user styles or web-downloaded styles in the Styles folder. Now everything is consolidated into the Styles folder, so it's harder to tell which were provided by PGMusic and which weren't.


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Aside from your good suggestion for a User style folder and probably a few other USER sub-folders, I'm just glad PG FINALLY cleaned up the \BB root folder and organized stuff a little - it was getting really messy (after ~27 years of collecting files in that ONE FOLDER it was a total Fibber McGee's closet)


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How many of the youngsters, here, have a clue about “Fibber McGee’s closet”? That’s a good one. Very descriptive for those who remember that.

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I've got the USB Audiophile drive

I run BiaB directly from this drive.

This is the contents of x:\bb\ without having added anything else (this is what PG Music provide):

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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
I've got the USB Audiophile drive

I run BiaB directly from this drive.

This is the contents of x:\bb\ without having added anything else (this is what PG Music provide):

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This is an interesting observation on my end, not a problem, just an observation.

I did a search on all styles in my BB directory and found that there were a total of 846 styles located in sub-directories other then c:\BB\Styles, the majority being in C:\BB\Songs & Lessons\...

I copied those over to C:\BB\Styles and did a full rebuild. Style picker added 190 styles to the total. The vast majority of those styles again were copied from C:\BB\Songs & Lessons\...

In other words, I copied anything style I found outside of C:\BB\Styles into C:\BB\Styles. I did not overwrite those that already existed.

Those copied styles are all PG Music styles, not 3rd party styles.

As an FYI, this was from a fresh install of BIAB 2018. I have the full package.

So at the end of all this, I wound up with 190 styles that were not available before this exercise.

Just an observation.


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Teunis,
I have asked, just some days ago, to PG Music people to create a User Styles folder in the Styles folder.
Many users request it and it looks a worthwhile request. So wait and see.
As I said in my request, before the BIAB 2018 version, we could set all the PG Music styles in the BB folder and set the User Styles in a Style folder. So, the PG Music styles and User styles were well separate and we had not a big pool where all styles (PG Music styles, User styles, Norton styles...) are mixed.

I don't know why this point has not been seen during the beta test.

As a general wish, when there is an upgrade to a new version, I would like not to lose functionalities we had before, that is what we call the upward compatibility.


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In my BIAB root folder, I have three folders you don't have :
DK files
DOC files
PAT files.

Where are these folders located in your folders ?


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Originally Posted By: John-Luke
In my BIAB root folder, I have three folders you don't have :
DK files
DOC files
PAT files.

Where are these folders located in your folders ?

Interesting. Is that on a PG Music supplied BiaB 2018 HDD?
I definitely don't have any of those folders (there is an X:\bb\Documentation\ folder though)
This is the contents of the F:\ (root) folder of that drive on my system:

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No, it is not a new HD provided by PG Music.
Upgrade from version 2017 to 2018 on my PC.
You may not have these folders but in this case where are the *.pat, *.doc and *.dk files located ?


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Originally Posted By: John-Luke
No, it is not a new HD provided by PG Music.
Upgrade from version 2017 to 2018 on my PC.
You may not have these folders but in this case where are the *.pat, *.doc and *.dk files located ?


All of the *.pat files are in "x:\bb\Data\Util\Synth Kits"

Almost all of the *.dk files are in the same location x:\bb\Data\Util\Synth Kits
Except:
MySetup.DK is in x:\bb\Preferences\

The *.doc files are literally everywhere, many of them in sub-folders of the products they describe.

Here is a link to where the files are on my PGM Audiophile HDD


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Thanks VideoTrack,
I'll have a look to that and I'll cleanup my BIAB folder.


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