Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Off-Topic
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,082
w Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,082
I am in need of another pair of headphones that i can plug into my mixing board or even keyboard.

I am astounded at today's pricing of headphones either at on line web sites or even at my local music dealerships.

Any thoughts as to why they are so expensive these days especially when they are manufactured in some far of Asian country that generally pay nothing to their workers.


Mac Audiophile 2020 2019 2018 2017 USB plus previous years versions

macOS Mojave - 10.14.6 @ Aug 16, 2019

iMac i3 3.6 GHz 8GB RAM 4K with Retina display

some examples @ sound cloud done with Mac Band and DAW's : https://soundcloud.com/you/tracks
Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,982
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,982
When compared to the past, a lot less people purchase studio grade headphones that don't add color to the audio. Many people get by with ear buds while there are a lot less commercial studios than before. Even in music stores it is getting increasingly difficult to find consumer grade headphones. Many manufacturers only make commercial grade (expensive) studio headphones, "audiophile" headphones that color the audio and consumer grade headphones.

Why do so many audio interfaces use the 3.5mm headphone jack instead of the 1/4" standard of old? Because most people will use what they have in hand instead of investing in headphones that cost as much, or more than the audio interface.


Jim Fogle - 2026 BiaB (Build 1224) RB (Build 7) - Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,399
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,399
w,

What are the prices of the headphones you're looking at?

I'm a fan of Audio Technica and I presently use ATH-MT40x.

I was just having a look around the internet and here's a link to some entry level Yamaha headphones that would be worth investigating. They're on special for under $37.70.

https://www.bigmusicshop.com.au/yamaha-hph50b-headphones.html

Regards,
Noel


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2026
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,173
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,173
I once went to an Australian retailer (DS) to get headphones and the guy said "buy these they are digital." I asked "why so expensive" he replied "you must understand they are completely digital". I said "no thanks my ears are analogue I can't hear in digital" he gave me a blank look and I left.


HP i7-4770 16GB 1TB SSD, Win 10 Home,
Focusrite 2i2 3rd Gen, Launchkey 61, Maton CW80, Telecaster, Ovation Elite TX, Yamaha Pacifica 612
BB 2022(912) RB 2022(2), CakeWalk, Reaper 6, Audacity, Melodyne 5 Editor, Izotope Music Production Suite 4.1
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,033
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,033
Quote:
They're on special for under $37.70

Dear Mr Magoo

Noel's price of course is in AU$

I'm not sure what the currency conversion is in outer-space grin


BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,399
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,399
Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Quote:
They're on special for under $37.70

Dear Mr Magoo

Noel's price of course is in AU$

I'm not sure what the currency conversion is in outer-space grin


Thanks, Trev. I keep forgetting that there are other currencies out there smile


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2026
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,330
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,330
Originally Posted By: Noel96
Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Quote:
They're on special for under $37.70

Dear Mr Magoo

Noel's price of course is in AU$

I'm not sure what the currency conversion is in outer-space grin


Thanks, Trev. I keep forgetting that there are other currencies out there smile


Which is why one needs a currency converter like this:

http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/

So $37.70 AU is $29.72 USD, 24.67 EUR, 22 British pounds or 1.293 billion bit-space-coins.


I think my wife has started to show the first signs of dementia.
She said she can't remember what she ever saw in me!

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Off-Topic
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,414
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,414
It is true, a good pair of headphones can certainly cost a pretty penny. However, I am a strong believer in you get what you pay for (with obvious exceptions). I myself am a giant fan of Audio Technica, they have never steered me wrong! And even though they can cost a bit, they last a long long time.


Cheers,
Deryk
Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,728
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,728
I went to a music store a few years ago with $350 in my pocket to burn on some cans.

I was comparing the quality of the sound in the high dollar cans to that of my $20 ear buds. The buds are the Creative EP 630 model. After having the sales guy drag out three different "nice" sets of cans, and comparing them side by side with the same exact source audio..... I concluded that they were about the same as my $20 ear buds and left after thanking the sales guy for his time and consideration. I still had my $350 in my pocket.


The last song I put up on the User Showcase was mixed primarily with a set of RH-5ma cans from Yamaha. I bought them from a half price bargain bin in a music store for $30. My older Realistic cans were falling apart.... so I bought the Yamaha's to replace them. They are brighter and I do tend to use them to mix. I compare the monitors with the cans.... split the difference and call it done.

Last edited by Guitarhacker; 01/11/18 08:30 AM.

You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com
Add nothing that adds nothing to the music.
You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.

The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,732
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,732
Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
I compare the monitors with the cans.... split the difference and call it done.


Same thing I do on my Sony MDR-7506 cans and monitors.




Steve

BIAB/RB 2022, Pro Tools 2020, Korg N5, JBL LSR 4328 Powered Monitors, AKG/Shure Mics.
PC: Win11 PRO, 4 TB M2 SSD, 2 TB HD, 128 GB Memory
Off-Topic
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,926
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,926
I find the editorial by the OP about Asian factory workers a bit out of place. But if you want to buy overpriced crap, get some Beats headphones! They sell for hundreds, but I hear they are made of about $15 worth of material. I bet the people who make those are paid really well!

For my part, sound is not all I pay for in a set of cans. For the last 20 years my primary phones have been Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro (first 250 ohms, now 80) Reference Headphones. I first got them in the mid 1990s for medical transcription and have found them to be the most accurate, comfortable, and durable I had ever used, with the added benefit of providing wonderful passive acoustic isolation.

That last is important for rejecting ambient noise (critical as a transcriptionist in an office environment) and containing noise (bleed) when tracking in the studio. The comfort was also essential, as I wore them for eight hours on shift, plus more in my home studio. Even wearing glasses I could have them on comfortably for 10-12 hours a day.

Accuracy is a given, and apparently isn’t that hard to achieve. I paid $50 and $100, respectively, for Audio Technica M40fx and Sennheiser HD-280 phones that sound almost as good as the DT 770 (they lack the dynamic range and aren’t as comfortable).

A kicker is durability. I paid $86 for my first pair in 1997 and they lasted for 15 years. I replaced the ear pads, but the drivers themselves wore out. In cost per year, that makes them ridiculously cheap. You will pay $150-$175 today, but everything is replaceable now, so I expect my ROI to be similar.

Bottom line: When buying commercial-grade phones, you are paying for—and receive—much more than good sound. Your $30 Apple Earbuds may sound almost as good, but they will not be as comfortable, last as long, or offer the other benefits that a professional set will.

And that is my considered professional opinion.

Richard


"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,330
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,330
I agree with Richard. I will add that if your earbuds leak sound, I have heard this with others earbuds, and you are recording via a mic then the mic will also pick up that leak. This makes editing extremely difficult.

Over the ear good headphones is the only way to go IMHO.


I think my wife has started to show the first signs of dementia.
She said she can't remember what she ever saw in me!

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Off-Topic
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,685
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,685
Over ear headphones Must be closed back or you will get Bleed.

I for one think there is too much on the clean recording thing.

As when I listen to music through my byerdynamics I hear breathing rustling etc, in a lot of pro recordings of various artists.

This adds to the recordings not detract from it.

As mentioned in this topic by an earlier post the byers are absolutely fantastic, even if you pick a pair of second hand ones up, as you can fully refurb as all components/or nearly are available to replace/refurb.

And they are awesome for recording vocals/guitar etc, and mixing.

I have the dt 770.


win 10 64 bit 16gb,i7 chip, ssd 500gb, m-audio air, ,Roland BK-7M, 1000,shure sm7b,sonar,acid,mixcraft, variety of plugins.Sample tank 3,Kontakt. TC Helicon Voicelive 3 2 .
https://beatmaster1.bandcamp.com/releases

Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,464
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,464
Here's a guess to answer the original question, taking it literally: rare earth materials in the magnets.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697
Why are headphones so expensive is a very open question.

W, what do you consider expensive?

Bob


Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.
Off-Topic
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,926
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,926
Originally Posted By: beatmaster
I for one think there is too much on the clean recording thing.

As when I listen to music through my byerdynamics I hear breathing rustling etc, in a lot of pro recordings of various artists.

This adds to the recordings not detract from it.


Absolutely! Hearing Yehudi Menuhin’s chair creak, or the valves working on the sax before the first note is played, or the tiny bit of hum the engineer couldn’t quite eliminate from the guitarist’s amp—all add to the sense of being in the same room with the performers! It’s a completely wonderful thing!

R.


"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
Off-Topic
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,926
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,926
Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
Why are headphones so expensive is a very open question.

W, what do you consider expensive?

Bob


Bob makes an excellent point. I thought my Beyerdynamic DT 770 were a bargain at $175 when compared to moon rock alternatives at three times or greater the price.


"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,464
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,464
I also have a Beyerdynamic DT 770. Very solid for monitoring and tracking. If I don't use that, I use an open air similar to Grado, the Alessandro One.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,443
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,443
I use open back AKG K240s for mixing and would not trade them for the world. They used to be $110 and now they are $60.

I use AKG K52s for recording vox because they are closed back and don't allow leakage. They are about $30. I don't consider that too expensive.

Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,498
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,498
Agree but only with respect to the much older/original K240's .

Larry


Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!

Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!

We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.

Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!

Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!

Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!

We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

Happy New Year!

Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.

Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!

Season's Greetings!

Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!

The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.

Team PG

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window

In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe

This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®

With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
  • MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
  • Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
  • Playable RealTracks Set 5
  • RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
  • SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
  • Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:


  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics85,796
Posts796,278
Members39,959
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
MirabelConnell, Rohde, Dobrnjac, MaxxFV, jwagner51
39,960 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 185
Noel96 122
DC Ron 109
rsdean 104
dcuny 102
DrDan 97
Today's Birthdays
gbasedband, Will.I.Am
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5