Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
#451223 01/15/18 01:33 AM
Beginners Forum
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 40
B
BryanDP Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
B
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 40
Hi Folks,there is something that I've been puzzled by. I have a collection of some old midi songs which I use in the days I had a Roland Brush Midi Player SD35 . Lately I have been trying to load some into BIAB2018, do a little editing/adjusting (in Events list)then saving the song. Then creating an MP3. The MP3 goes onto a Samgsung Tablet then to my mixer as a back-track to jam with and sing-along.
I noticed as an MP3 some songs are losing a few notes right at the begining. When I play the song in BIAB it's fine and I hear all the notes, but they are missing as an MP3.
I also notice when I look at the "Events List" in BIAB some of the events are timed in minus values and do not start at Bar 1 but before Bar 1. Could this be causing the problem, what can I do? Kind Regards. Bryan.

BryanDP #451224 01/15/18 02:00 AM
Beginners Forum
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,831
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,831
Which notes are missing, low notes?

Also, are the midi files a single instrument (say, piano) or multiple instruments such as piano, strings, basss, guitar?


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2025
BryanDP #451237 01/15/18 03:34 AM
Beginners Forum
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,034
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,034
It’s not the MP3; that’s audio and could not be failing to play some notes. The problem is whatever is producing the notes that are recorded into an MP3. Your Roland is one of the few Roland MIDI synths I’ve never used, but they all have a spec for polyphony ( the number of notes that can sound simultaneously). After you add harmony and strings, certain patches can overload the module. Are you hearing all the notes in BIAB when you play the song?


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
BryanDP #451447 01/16/18 01:40 AM
Beginners Forum
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 40
B
BryanDP Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
B
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 40
I have the idea that is the notes which fall into the minus in the events list. Forgive me but I'm not very skilled. I still use an very old version of Cakewalk when I buy a midi file, to edit and customize the file by changing instruments, controls etc . When I load a midi file into this cakewalk all events start at measure 1. When I load the same midi into BIAB some events are -1 measure. I can't get me head around that. When I make an MP3 it seems that the MP3 notes which are in the minus (-1) measure are dropped and the audible notes start only from the notes from measure 1 and on from there. Not sure if its making sense. Thanks for the replies, much appreciated.

BryanDP #451455 01/16/18 02:11 AM
Beginners Forum
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,114
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,114
Hi
The 2 bars previous to bar one in BIAB are the count in.
The song starts on bar one.
Mike


BIAB2021 UltraPlus,AsusN55S1Tbssd, W10/64,Akai EIEpro
Yamaha CVP405,SquireStrat, CoolsoftVMidSynth
Novatation Impulse61 Ctr kbd, Cwalk blab Kontakt

http://mikesmusic.byethost16.com/
BryanDP #451458 01/16/18 02:37 AM
Beginners Forum
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,831
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,831
Hi Bryan,

I'm beginning to see you problem, I think.

The bars -1 and 0 are count-in bars in BIAB. This nomenclature is used so that bar 1 represents the start of the music.

I'm surprised that some parts of your midi are starting in the -1 bar region. Whenever I've loaded midi files into BIAB, they automatically load correctly. The only time I've had notes appear before bar 1 is if they are a few pickup notes.

(Pick up notes are usually two or three melody notes that occur before the first bar. See the upper image below.)

For what it is worth, I encourage you to begin experimenting with Realband to work with midi. It's possible to have the different midi channels of different tracks. In this way, it's more like Cakewalk.

Realband also makes it very easy to see if everything aligns. BIAB is a bit 'clunky' when working with fully fledged midi files.


I've just made a discovery. This might help...

If the "Options | Preferences | Count-in/Met" 'Lead In' is deacativated, then BIAB will not play pickup notes that occur in bar 0.

Have a look at the lower graphic below and make sure that you have the same settings for #4 that I have (i.e. that it's been activated).

Regards,
Noel

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
bar 0 pickup notes.JPG (46.82 KB, 48 downloads)
Pick up notes before bar 1
count-in metronome.JPG (75.17 KB, 48 downloads)
Count-in and metronome settings

MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2025
BryanDP #451568 01/16/18 11:42 AM
Beginners Forum
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,672
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,672
It also depends upon whether you "open" the MIDI file or "import" it to the melody track. If you import it, you have to take the 2-bar lead in into account in the options when you bring it in.


John

Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD
Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA

BB2025/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK

http://www.sus4chord.com
jford #453745 01/25/18 11:37 PM
Beginners Forum
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 40
B
BryanDP Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
B
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 40
Thanks Guys for the advice. I will have a go and let you know how it works out. Things used to be so simple when I was a kid. The "old" fellows then had a language of their own I remember when they jammed one would call out a song title and say in "Katvoet" translated it means cat paw. Eventually I worked out the song was in D and it had something to do with the chord shape on the guitar which looked a bit like a cat foot print. Regards. Bryan.

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Moderated by  Andrew - PG Music, PeterGannon 

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins

Join the conversation on our forum.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac Videos

With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll also keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.

From overviews of new features and walkthroughs of the 202 new RealTracks, to highlights of XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAKs 18, the 2025 49-PAK, and in-depth tutorials — you’ll find everything you need to explore what’s new in Band-in-a-Box® 2025.

Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Mac Videos — we’ll be adding more videos as they’re released!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until July 31, 2025! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!

Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.

Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano

Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!

Bonjour à tous,

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music

Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:

BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation

Voilà, enjoy!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!

Die deutsche Version Band-in-a-Box® 2025 für Windows ist ab sofort verfügbar!

Alle die bereits die englische Version von Band-in-a-Box und RealBand 2024 installiert haben, finden hier die Installationsdateien für das Sprachenupdate:

https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025.exe
https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025RB.exe

Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!

Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Stay up to date—get the latest update now!

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,304
Posts777,518
Members39,612
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
Claudio Paolini, bjornen71, CATBELLOU, Banjopotamus, BudLab
39,612 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 148
zedd 119
DC Ron 107
nonchai 104
WaoBand 102
rsdean 88
Today's Birthdays
Manos
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5