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OK. This is SOLVED.

The static was the Amplitube plugin used on the demo song. It was not registered. And no window or message popped up saying there is a plugin that needs to be registered. frown

So I was left with this annoying bursts of static sound and no way to know what it is. Thank God I did not fiddle with Windows and screw it up or go buy a new sound card, etc.

To help others with this problem, here is what it sounds like. No message pops up.

https://youtu.be/mpL3CJW5byA



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Installed BIAB 2018 yesterday upgrade from 2015. But not all real tracks. Ran fine.

Then I installed all the latest real tracks on my fast SSD drive. Still has 25GB free.

Also installed Build 509 this morning.

Now I get random static. Also saw an "Error opening windows streaming -9998" when I was trying out the WAS driver.

Went to MME, set latency, got setting from audiophile 2496 soundcard.

Still have static.

This is a fast Intel i7 CPU with eight cores and 16GB RAM.




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It sounds like you did the right things.

Did it work OK yesterday on Build 508 (the supplied build)? You could revert.

I know you used BIAB to get the soundcard buffer settings, but go into it manually and increase the buffer size and try that.


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Also ran a check of the SSD, and it is good, according to Intel tools.

I will try reverting.

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Reverted to 508. No luck.

Still static and a "windows cannot open stream" error when trying to set up as WAS.

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What is the Operating System, Glenn?


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Glenn, you probably know this, but the backups moved in version 2018. They are now in /BB/Data/Backup. Find the latest dated .exe file and copy that over BBW.EXE in the /BB folder.

EDIT: Nevermind, you found it.

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What happens when you change the audio driver from WAS to MME? I could not get good results on my system with the WAS drivers. Every system is different...


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Matt,

Moving to MME doesn't help. Also, in MME the audio stuttering green box sometimes appears and suggests adding to the audio latency setting. I tried that at 500 and then at 2000. But still get static.

One thing I notice is the timing count off is not even. The first two clicks seem faster.

I wonder if there is an internal clock issue.

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Does Process Explorer or Task Manager show other CPU or other I/O intensive activity?


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OK. Tell us about your operating system and about what you use for sound. Someone here may recognize something specific. Otherwise, after we've had some time to solve it, or not, call PG Music Support.

About that uneven count-off, I've had that off and on for years. Never did figure it out. In a standard swing type 1,2, 1234, the first half note is cut off or late, then the rest is OK.


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Originally Posted By: Glenn in Minneapolis
I wonder if there is an internal clock issue.

Highly unlikely.


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Windows-10 Creative Edition. Has been running all DAWS fine with the Audiophile Delta 2496.

I am going to try and move all the realtracks I installed before the static began, over to another drive for a bit and see if that makes any difference.

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If I saw this correctly on the M-Audio Legacy devices page.... this PCI card supports ASIO.

Have you tried loading and using the ASIO driver for it?

WAS & MME are not good drivers for some of the audio gear we use. I use MME for BB on some of the machines but prefer ASIO depending on what I'm doing. MME is generally OK if you have all audio but mix in some midi and a real time synth and latency goes through the roof. I can't speak for WAS since I have never used it.


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Guitarhacker, yes, I am trying everything. ASIO did not work either. Has static.

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In ASIO did you change the buffers and latency settings?

Of all the drivers, ASIO should work the best.


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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
In ASIO did you change the buffers and latency settings?

Of all the drivers, ASIO should work the best.
Agreed. That was my first suggestion, but I don't think we have a report on that.


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Hi, have you checked your devices to see if you are loading up an onboard audio device as well as the intended device. I found I had both devices loaded after upgrading to Win 10 1709.

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So, yes, ASIO fails as well, even with largest buffer possible. BIAB popup notes that latency is not used in ASIO.

Did a performance test, and the SSD is hardly breaking a sweat. No correlation between the static and any spike in CPU or drive data transfer.


I even tracked in performance monitor the realtracks files being used for disk transfers and there was no correlation there between static and the data transfers during the song playback.

I guess I will have to call support, but I expect to be led through trying all the audio drivers, etc. Which I did.

Perhaps I will just wait for a new build.


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Originally Posted By: Teunis
Hi, have you checked your devices to see if you are loading up an onboard audio device as well as the intended device. I found I had both devices loaded after upgrading to Win 10 1709.

For what it is worth

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Not sure what you mean. Can you rephrase? Thanks.

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Glenn,

Just to doublecheck some very basic stuff (and it pays to set the driver to MME to do this as BIAB usually works better with MME when problem solving).

Also, if there are any USB sound-related devices plugged in into your computer, disconnect those during the initial problem solving process.


1. Have you restarted your computer and not simply logged off? This has solved a number of sound issues just recently on this forum.


2. Have you confirmed that you soundcard playback is set to allow BIAB to take control of it when running? On Windows 7, I do this as follows...

(a) Rightclick on the speaker icon in the taskbar

(b) Select "Playback Devices"

(c) Rightclick on "Speakers" (#2 on image below) and select "Properties"

(d) Select "Advanced" (#3) and activate the two checkboxes (#4).


3. Restart the computer after setting the speaker as mentioned in (2) above. This guarantees that all memories are fully cleared.

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