|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,173
Expert
|
Expert
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,173 |
In Windows right click on the Windows sign usually bottom left. Select DeviceManager when that comes up look down the list for sound devices check that only the audio device is running. Turn off the internal card which is done by right clicking on the unwanted card and selecting the turn off option.
What I did before that is in the same place delete the audio card you are using. If it is an external card make sure it is plugged in then reboot. This will force the device driver to reload. Then check in the DeviceManager to ensure you are only running one audio card.
I had to do similar to my Ethernet card which had some minor issues. There are heaps of comments in general in Microsoft forums about drivers failing after 1709 Windows answer is usually reload drivers.
Tony
Last edited by Teunis; 01/16/18 11:07 AM.
HP i7-4770 16GB 1TB SSD, Win 10 Home,
Focusrite 2i2 3rd Gen, Launchkey 61, Maton CW80, Telecaster, Ovation Elite TX, Yamaha Pacifica 612
BB 2022(912) RB 2022(2), CakeWalk, Reaper 6, Audacity, Melodyne 5 Editor, Izotope Music Production Suite 4.1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
Thanks everyone.
The thing is, BIAB 2015 realtracks ran fine on this computer.
So I really feel like this is a 2018 version issue, and not my Windows or device driver setup.
All I did was upgrade to 2018. Then the static started.
I tried all drivers, I adjusted latency on MME. MME gave static. I adjusted buffer on ASIO. No luck. Static. The Windows WAS-driver reported an error -9998 that it couldn't stream.
Thanks for the suggestions. Somehow when BIAB is loading realtracks parts, it losses the stream, I am thinking.
Last edited by Glenn in Minneapolis; 01/16/18 11:42 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,653
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,653 |
Tony refers to the odd habit of Windows to add back disabled devices after an update. This often includes an audio device for your monitor, for example LG HD Audio appears for my LG monitor. Useless. Anyway, bring up the Windows Control Panel, then Device Manager, and look at the Sound category. You will see your soundcard listed there. Anything else might be a candidate for being disabled.
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Fender Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,663
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,663 |
Glenn,
Because BIAB set WAS (a new Windows driver) as the default audio driver with the update from 2015 to 2018, it's not safe to assume that all audio settings have remained the same after the update. Hence my post above. In 2015, the default driver was MME.
I've discovered over the years, updates that involve changing driver settings often impact on previous settings and everything needs to be re-checked.
Also, many times over the years, users on these forums have found that updating drivers for audio cards and video cards has often solved sound issues, too. (Just in case you haven't tried this yet.)
Lastly, if I recall correctly from an earlier comment of Peter Gannon's, the WAS error of 9998 is related to the fact that BIAB runs at 44.1 KHz and 16 bit, and the computer's soundcard is set to a default that does not match this (hence my suggestion in my previous post regarding checking that "Allow applications to take exclusive control of this device" is active because then, when BIAB is running, it will drive the soundcard at the audio values it needs.)
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
I checked the M-Audio 2496. It is matching BIAB 44.1K 16bits. Only the Audiophile card is enabled. It has the latest driver. And it works fine with every other application on the computer that uses sound: Sonar X3. Spotify. YouTube. Here is the sound I am experiencing. This is using good old MME. https://youtu.be/mpL3CJW5byA
Last edited by Glenn in Minneapolis; 01/16/18 12:41 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 25,002
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 25,002 |
A couple of things to check. Are any of your sounds or your BiaB in Demo mode? This sound is used in demo mode for a lot of software.
Do you have WiFi or Bluetooth on? These can also cause these types of problems. I have had problems if my audio monitors are close to my router.
Is anyone using a CB or ham radio near you? Another source of sound problems.
Are you audio interface and video drivers up to date?
One last thing is to check for IRQ problems. Another piece of hardware may have the same IRQ as your audio interface and interfering with it. This is rare today but maybe it is a problem.
Life is short so make sure you spend as much time as possible on the Internet arguing with strangers.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
It only happens with BIAB. And it does not happen in BIAB when Chord Analyzing a WAV file for chord detection.
The static appears on a rendered wav.
If I turn off all tracks in the mixer, the static still appears over the silence.
I have been using BAIB for about 24 years, interrupt issues were a long time ago, as I recall. (Thank goodness).
Last edited by Glenn in Minneapolis; 01/16/18 01:13 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,663
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,663 |
Glenn,
Those periodic white noise sounds in your youtube clip sound like those created by a plugin that is not registered and it's being used outside its 'free trial' period. This is the way that plugins like Amplitube, Coyote Forte, etc. remind people to register.
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
Glenn,
Those periodic white noise sounds in your youtube clip sound like those created by a plugin that is not registered and it's being used outside its 'free trial' period. This is the way that plugins like Amplitube, Coyote Forte, etc. remind people to register.
Regards,
Noel That's an interesting angle. But I don't know of any plugins that are unregistered. I think a developer who knows what BIAB is doing during realtracks playback is needed. I will have to call support.
Last edited by Glenn in Minneapolis; 01/16/18 01:31 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,653
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,653 |
I agree with Noel; it sounds like a trial plugin that expired.
It sounded regular, as in every so often.
I was going to suggest DPC Latency Checker, but the playback never varied. Just in case, try downloading DPC Latency Checker. It says it isn't for Windows 10 but run it anyway and see if you get red spikes where you hear static.
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Fender Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
Thanks Matt. I will make a close check of any plugins. I don't remember it happening in 2015 band in a box. But I'll take a look. And I should take a look at that latency checker.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697 |
Glenn, you should have posted that clip in the very beginning, just saying "static" doesn't mean anything. That noise has nothing to do with Biab or any of it's internal audio settings imho. And when you get this fixed, let Biab use the default WAS, it works great. The only time you might need the lower latency you get from ASIO is when you're playing/recording a softsynth LIVE in real time. If you're recording audio (as in you plug an audio cable from a guitar or keyboard into your M Audio card) there's no need for ASIO because you're not playing a softsynth. One thing that jumped out at me is your comment saying you have 25 gigs of free space on your main system drive. To me that's not enough but you're saying everything else is running good but I would increase that free space anyway. Here's an article about it and yes, it's not a definite answer concerning SSD's so your guess is as good as mine but 25 gigs still sounds low to me: https://www.howtogeek.com/324956/how-much-free-space-should-you-leave-on-your-windows-pc/Do you realize that when Win 10 does updates it keeps a copy of the OS that's about 64 gigs by itself? It's perfectly fine to let the disc cleanup utility delete that. I just finished researching that last week so I let my Avast disc cleaner tool do it with no issues and my free space went from about 35 to over 100 gigs. Is that really necessary? Who knows but it can't hurt. Bob
Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,663
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,663 |
Glenn, When you installed BIAB, did you do the full install? If so, I suspect that you have (re)installed Amplitube and it could be this that's causing the problem. (This is just an educated guess, though.) While it's a free plugin, it does require registration. Have a look at the below recent thread regarding Amplitube. The last couple of posts by Andrew (at PG Music) provide useful information. www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=449100#Post449956Regards, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
No I have a second solid state drive just for the sounds that stream. It's 250 gigabytes and it has 25gb free. The main system Drive still has about a hundred gigabytes free.
When I installed 2018 I just did the upgrade install. I did not add any amplitube plugins but maybe the demo song used the plugin. I will check.
I appreciate people taking the time to throw out ideas.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
Well, well.
It WAS the Amplitube plug-in that is used in the demo song.
So do I need to PURCHASE Amplitube to use any of the BIAB realtracks that have AMplitube plugins?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,663
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,663 |
Glenn, You don't need to purchase Amptibue (unless you want the full version). This audio effect is available as a free lite version (which is what BIAB uses). The lite version stills need registering, though. That's the only way to get rid of the noise you're hearing. Regards, Noel P.S. If you're interested, here's a link to a thread where I explain how to identify what plugins BIAB sees installed. http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=451623&#Post451623
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
Good Lord.
I just spent a day of my life chasing down this problem.
How was I supposed to know? I installed the 2018 update. I ran the program.
Would it not have be better if BIAB popped up a window saying "NOTE: YOU MUST AUTHORIZE THIS AMPLITUBE PLUG_IN" ??
Nobody here knew either until I posted the video. So it wasted your time as well.
And I won't go into what a hassle it was trying to authorize the plug-in. Several software installs just to be able to get the authorization done. Took 20 to 30 minutes.
I am really irritated.
I was a software development manager at a Fortune 250 corporation. I used to tell my programmers "PUT YOURSELF IN THE SHOES OF YOUR USER. What do they know? What do they NOT know? Make the software interface INTUITIVE. What are they likely going to click on? Make it work. It is your job to make it easy for them; it is not their job to make it easy for you by learning your way of doing things."
Last edited by Glenn in Minneapolis; 01/18/18 05:41 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,663
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,663 |
Glenn,
I'm glad you got it working.
One of the hardest things on a forum like this is to try and solve audio and visual problems with only words. That's why your video clip helped a great deal. Once I heard equal length pulses of white noise occurring at regular intervals, experience kicked in to help me identify the problem.
All the best with 2018! It's a great program.
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Peter Gannon Talks Band-in-a-Box with zplane
zplane recently interviewed Peter Gannon, the founder and creator of Band-in-a-Box, about the software's early days, what sets it apart from AI, how zplane's audio algorithms are used in Band-in-a-Box, and more!
Special thanks to the team at zplane for their continued support.
Check out the full interview here: https://products.zplane.de/blog/peter-gannon-interview-pg-music
Last Chance! The Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® Special Ends Today (May 31, 2026) at 11:59pm PDT!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PDT today!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the amazing new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. View the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to transcribe an entire track or transcribe specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Mac® to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Special Offers Extended Until May 31st!
Good news- we've extended our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® special offers until May 31, 2026!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 is packed with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can transcribe an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PDT on May 31st, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Check out the Band-in-a-Box® for Mac packages page to find the best package for you.
Holiday Weekend Hours
It's Victoria Day Long Weekend in Canada. Our Customer Service hours are:
Saturday, May 16: Closed
Sunday, May 17: Closed
Monday, May 18: 8:00am - 4:00pm
Regular hours resume Tuesday, May 19th!
Today's the Last Day of the Band-in-a-Box 2026® for Mac Special!
Order before 11:59pm PDT today (May 15, 2026) to save up to 50% off your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrade and receive a FREE Bonus PAK loaded with great new Add-ons to use with this new version!
Don't wait - order today!
Check out all the new features in the redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac - Special Offers End at 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th, 2026!
Order before 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th and SAVE up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® version 2026 for Mac Upgrade packages... and that's not all! With your version 2026 for Mac purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks... that's 222 NEW RealTracks available with version Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac!
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® today for as little as $49! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all available purchase options.
Learn more about the Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK here.
If you have any questions about which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We're here to help!
202 New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2026!
With Band-in-a-Box® 2026, we've released 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 468-488) in a variety of genres—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Funk & World (Sets 468-475):
Our new jazz, funk & blues RealTracks include a groovin’ collection of RealTracks and RealDrums! These include more requested “soul jazz” RealTracks featuring artists Neil Swainson (bass), Charles Treadway (organ), Brent Mason (guitar), and Wes Little (drums). There are new “smooth jazz” styles (4), which include a RealTracks first: muted trumpet, as well as slick new smooth jazz brushes options for drums. Blues lovers will be thrilled—there are more “classic acoustic blues” styles, including guitar (5), bass (4), and drums (10) with blues master Colin Linden, featuring understated and tasty background acoustic soloing, plus brushes drums and acoustic bass. There are also new electric blues RealTracks, including electric blues with PG favorite Johnny Hiland (3) and soulful electric slide guitar from Colin Linden (4). If you love funk & gospel, there are great new options this year, including gospel organ (3) from Charles Treadway, as well as new funk, tango, and rock ’n’ roll drums (3) and bass (1). And for big, bold arrangements, we have uptempo soul horns (4) featuring a three-part hip horn section with options for a full mix or stems of each individual horn — plus an accompanying rhythm section (4) of drums, bass, guitar, and electric piano!
Rock & Pop (Sets 476–482):
Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.
Country, & Americana (Sets 483–488):
Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.
Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!
And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.
The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,560
Posts806,704
Members40,155
| |
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean