Thanks Guys for the advice. I will have a go and let you know how it works out. Things used to be so simple when I was a kid. The "old" fellows then had a language of their own I remember when they jammed one would call out a song title and say in "Katvoet" translated it means cat paw. Eventually I worked out the song was in D and it had something to do with the chord shape on the guitar which looked a bit like a cat foot print. Regards. Bryan.