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Perhaps, but I don't think a small quote was even thought of as piracy, but homage.
Paul Desmond was famous for quoting snippets of melodies of songs from famous songwriters in his improvised solos. Songwriters who were still living and making a fortune on Broadway, Pop, and Cinema markets. They certainly could have and had the ASCAP/BMI guns plus money for lawyers. I just don't think they cared.
Now stealing enough to hurt the original is a different thing.
Personally, I think they are going too far with the lawsuits and quite a few should be thrown out. It's come more to gold digging than anything else IMHO.
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Hard to think of the three word phrase, "playas gonna play" as "intellectual" property. Just sayin'.
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Hard to think of the three word phrase, "playas gonna play" as "intellectual" property. Just sayin'. As originally performed by a bunch of people with absolutely NO intellect....
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"Flugelhornists gonna fl..."
I still can't proceed.
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Now stealing enough to hurt the original is a different thing.
I have, on rare occasions, heard something with lifted parts and went back to listen to the original again, so the original actually benefited from the "piracy". When swing made the brief comeback with Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Cherry Poppin' Daddies, Squirrel Nut Zippers, etc.... there was a band called The Atomic Fireballs, and on one of their songs the sax solo started with a direct, exact rip from Clifford Brown's The Blues Walk. That caused me to go out in search of and found a great chart as revisited by Hal Leonard. Made me want to buy a Zoot Suit!! And in that song was a subtle homage to Night Train! This sampling lawsuit nonsense is just that. Phil Collins sued for lifting his snare drum sound. Now SOUND is a basis for litigation? I mean, Harrison lifted He's So Fine for My Sweet Lord, that was obvious. But a SOUND???? I have a big pill bottle full of dried Lima beans that I use for a deep pitched shaker. I hope The Jolly Green Giant doesn't sue me.
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I've heard it said that musical geniuses never tell where they stole their ideas from....
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I've heard it said that musical geniuses never tell where they stole their ideas from.... I heard the Mozart ripped a lot of his stuff from Das Beatles....
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Wow - this is news to me! I didn't even realize this was going on. Can't say I disagree with the outcome of this one. It's insane to me how far they take this sometimes.
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