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Best way to convert the file .MGX #458503 02/20/18 04:02 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 167 V Vincente OP Apprentice
OP Vincente Apprentice V Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 167	What's the best way to convert the .MGX file which's created from BIAB2009 that's able to read and play properly in BIAB 2018? Your input will be appreciated very much. WIN11 OS build 23H2, 16MB, 1TG SSD. BIAB2024, build 1113, MegaPaK

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Vincente #458506 02/20/18 04:07 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,672 Pensacola, Florida	An MGX file is nothing more than a BIAB file with a multi-channel MIDI file imported/loaded on the melody track (versus a single channel MIDI file). BIAB should read the MGX file just fine (it still puts non-style multi-channel MIDI on the melody -- or soloist -- track, just like it did in 2009). You just open the file as you would any other BIAB file. Are you having a specific problem loading a file? John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2025/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX jford #458509 02/20/18 04:10 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Vincente Apprentice V Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 167	The file loads fine but does not play the sound correctly in Biab2018 Last edited by Vincente; 02/20/18 04:10 PM. WIN11 OS build 23H2, 16MB, 1TG SSD. BIAB2024, build 1113, MegaPaK

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Vincente #458511 02/20/18 04:22 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,672 Pensacola, Florida	Need more information than that. What is not playing correctly? Is your MIDI synth set up the same in 2018 as it was in 2009? Could you provide a sample of each so we can hear what's going on? John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2025/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX jford #458540 02/21/18 03:25 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Vincente Apprentice V Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 167	The MIDI-Synth is diff. from biab2009. I'll upload the sample file tonight Thanks for your response WIN11 OS build 23H2, 16MB, 1TG SSD. BIAB2024, build 1113, MegaPaK

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Vincente #458576 02/21/18 08:31 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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fiddler2007 Expert Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,796	GM synth or else?

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Vincente #458578 02/21/18 08:38 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,672 Pensacola, Florida	Looking forward to seeing what you mean; however, if the MIDI synth is different, then it won't sound the same. Let us know what synth you were using and what synth you are using now. As Fiddler mentioned, if it's not a GM synth, then how you set it up will be important. But no two synths sound the same. While in GM (General MIDI) there are assignment standard patches (for example, the first patch is an acoustic piano), that piano will sound different in every synth. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2025/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX jford #458631 02/21/18 02:48 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Vincente Apprentice V Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 167	In Biab2009 I used GM MIDI synth (VSC) Virtual sound canvas. In Biab2018 I used GM MIDI Synth TTS-1 Here's link for a sample file: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yeZ1CgHva8MCIQraVlFrJhJ92pAANjon WIN11 OS build 23H2, 16MB, 1TG SSD. BIAB2024, build 1113, MegaPaK

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Vincente #458713 02/22/18 06:08 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,672 Pensacola, Florida	The Virtual Sound Canvas (which does not work with newer versions of Windows) has a completely different sound than the TTS-1. There is a newer VSC available, but it's not cheap and as I understand, it's somewhat flaky in operation. I used the VSC for many years, and I generally liked its sound as a General MIDI synth. However, when it wouldn't work anymore, I switched to the TTS-1 and had to get used to the differences in sound. Some sounds are better in VSC; others are better in TTS-1. As I recall (and it's been a long time since I used it), the VSC had a "fuller" sound than TTS-1. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2025/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Vincente #458739 02/22/18 09:44 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,814 Winston Salem, NC USA	+++ HERE +++ is Roland's Sound Canvas jford mentioned. The link includes a trial version should you decide you want to try it out. +++ HERE +++ is a review of the product The only seller I've found is the (first link) Roland website. Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX jford #458741 02/22/18 10:01 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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fiddler2007 Expert Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,796	I was a longtime user of Hypersonic 2, quite an inmprovement over edirol (VSC?). You'll need an elicenser dongle, some 20 U$D. You can probably find it cheap secondhand. I bought the IK media Sampletank with the GM omnisynth, too much problems using it since it's hard to set up right. Hypersonic and Halion Sonic (SE) work flawlessly. If you have Cubase (Elements?) the included Halion Sonic SE is better as such, and version 2 comes with the older Cubase versions from before 9.0.3, Like 7 or 8. This also has a 32bit version included. The recent 64bit Halion Sonic 3 needs to be jBridged 32bit for BIAB. You'll have to set them all to GM in the options menu. Steinberg ('free') trials last for 30 days if you want to try them out. BTW I still have Halion 5 for sale, for MAC or PC, and the complete boxed full version, DVDs, etc, dongle included. 200 bucks plus shipping. Halion Sonic 2 full version is included. -F

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Vincente #458745 02/22/18 10:11 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,672 Pensacola, Florida	I just upgraded to Halion 6, which includes Halion Sonic 3. I'll have to give it a try with BIAB and see how it works. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2025/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Vincente #458754 02/22/18 11:12 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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fiddler2007 Expert Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,796	It works with jBridge, as halion 6 etc is 64bit only. I use the included Halion Sonic 3 that way, no problems etc. F

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Vincente #458758 02/22/18 11:43 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,672 Pensacola, Florida	I've been a registered jBridge user since long before PGMusic adopted it, so that's not a problem. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2025/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Vincente #458779 02/22/18 02:42 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Vincente Apprentice V Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 167	I don't have problem mapping the MIDI sound from BiAb 2009 to new MIDI synth TTS-1 that's I used on Biab2018. The problem, is the real drum does not sound correctly on biab2018 if I load the file created from Biab2009 Last edited by Vincente; 02/22/18 02:49 PM. WIN11 OS build 23H2, 16MB, 1TG SSD. BIAB2024, build 1113, MegaPaK

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Jim Fogle #458784 02/22/18 02:47 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Vincente Apprentice V Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 167	This VSC is just the update to make it works with the new WinOS. I don't think I go backward for this. Last edited by Vincente; 02/22/18 02:47 PM. WIN11 OS build 23H2, 16MB, 1TG SSD. BIAB2024, build 1113, MegaPaK

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Vincente #458842 02/23/18 03:56 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 1,114 Cornwall UK Mike Head Expert
Mike Head Expert Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 1,114 Cornwall UK	HI Vincent It seems to me that you must be on the BIAB default that atomatically changes midi drums to real drums . Therefore you are not hearing your old midi drum track but a substitute real track, You can change this default behaviour by: Mike Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) drums.jpg (330.59 KB, 42 downloads) Last edited by Mike Head; 02/23/18 04:02 AM. BIAB2021 UltraPlus,AsusN55S1Tbssd, W10/64,Akai EIEpro Yamaha CVP405,SquireStrat, CoolsoftVMidSynth Novatation Impulse61 Ctr kbd, Cwalk blab Kontakt http://mikesmusic.byethost16.com/

Re: Best way to convert the file .MGX Mike Head #459033 02/24/18 07:11 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP Vincente Apprentice V Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 167	The problem in both real drum and MIDI drum track Attached the sample file: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yeZ1CgHva8MCIQraVlFrJhJ92pAANjon (Click the arrow down on the left side of the screen to download) Last edited by Vincente; 02/24/18 07:12 AM. WIN11 OS build 23H2, 16MB, 1TG SSD. BIAB2024, build 1113, MegaPaK

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