Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Dear musician colleagues,
I have recently a problem with BiaB 2018. Under Windows 7 and also under Windows 10:
If I want to play a complete 5 minute song (realtime tracks only) with BiaB, my ROLAND UA-101 audio / MIDI interface will immediately produce a noise, the song will not play, BiaB crashes. A few days ago I did not have this problem with this song yet. I have not changed anything on my PC system since then.
I've been using BiaB for a few years now and have never had any issues or crashes with this program.
I post a small part of the error message. I have send this to PG MUSIC, too. Maybe here or there is a specialist among you who knows from the data, where the problem lies.

--------------
An exception error has occurred. You can continue to use the program, but should likely save your work and reboot program.

Access violation.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Exception log with detailed tech info. Generated on 19.02.2018 20:32:47.
You may send it to the application vendor, helping them to understand what had happened.
Application title:
Application file: C:\bb\bbw.exe
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Exception class: EAccessViolation
Exception message: Access violation at address 1F822639 in module 'Rdaw1049.dll'. Read of address 00000108.
Exception address: 1F822639
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Main thread ID = 6084
Exception thread ID = 6084
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Exception stack
Stack list, generated 19.02.2018 20:32:45
(00001639){Rdaw1049.dll} [1F822639]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Call stack for main thread
Stack list, generated 19.02.2018 20:32:47
[770B0C72]{ntdll.dll } ZwGetContextThread
------------------------------------------------------------------------------


BiaB Ultrapak+, actual/latest Version, 64 bit, Win 11 PRO, i7-12700 K/3.60 GHz, 32 GB RAM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,033
Veteran
Online Happy
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,033
Mike, welcome to the forum.

I can't tell anything specific from this error report except to suggest that exception errors and access violations are often due to insufficient rights of the user account. The remedy is to Run BBW.EXE As Administrator. Let us know if you've tried that, or if you don't know how to do that.

The fact that it always worked before doesn't mean it isn't remedied by this; Windows changes frequently with updates, and BIAB has regular updates, too.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
...... Windows changes frequently with updates ...
a song called 'Windows Trouble', and it's to be listed under blues in your default BIAB folder ... - Seriously, give us more information like what kind of hardware you use, f.i. USB can be the culprit; indeed try 'run as administrator'. Rdaw1049.dll is a roland drver, check for updates? . F

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
windows-error-message1.jpg (15.94 KB, 143 downloads)
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,033
Veteran
Online Happy
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,033
I noticed a few mentions on Google that the driver, Rdaw1049.dll, could be attacked by malware.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,831
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,831
Just to be clear about "Run as administrator"...

This is different from logging into Windows as admin. To start BIAB using 'Run as administrator', right-click on the program and select 'Run as administrator'.

When I read your post, my first thought was that it could be a driver issue with your Roland. Like Fiddler suggests, I'd see if a more recent update is available.


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2025
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,382
K
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
K
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,382
Hi Mike,

Rdaw1049.dll is the driver for a Roland interface. Was the Roland device connected to your computer when you opened Band-in-a-Box? If it was, the you likely just need to reinstall its driver.

If it wasn't connected, either connect it before launching BIAB again, or delete the files "intrface.bbw" and "mysetup.dk" from the BB\Preferences folder. That will allow Band-in-a-Box to open without trying to access the device.

Please let us know if this doesn't solve your problem.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I noticed a few mentions on Google that the driver, Rdaw1049.dll, could be attacked by malware.
All malware scouts i use in windows 10 besides 360TS antivirus (be aware that it occasionally removes OK stuff too based on false positives, but you can restore them) is S&D Spybot, Malwarebytes free, and spywareblaster (it seems not to be updated a much compared to a year ago). Plus privacyfirewall, reccomendable. Tip: most antivirus packages include an upload tool for testing possible affected dll files.- F

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Dear colleagues,
a greeting to all who have given me to my problem tips ...

I ran BiaB as an administrator and was able to easily play various songs from the bb directory. Then I loaded my self-created song, which is the problem. It's just a raw sketch of a new song. I would like to continue working on it, but as soon as the song is to be played, I try different Realtracks, which are known to be rendered before playing, immediately comes from the UA-101, the noise and BiaB the error message that I have already sent you in part. It seems only with this song! Should I send you the file? So it could be tried, if the file, my song-sketch, runs without problems.
My ROLAND UA-101 (audio / midi interface) with Windows 10 driver works well with CUBASE 9.5 PRO.

I have the same BiaB / Roland UA-101 problem on my other PC with Windows 7. I switched to Windows 10 and a new computer only a few days ago. I worked with the Windows 7 machine and BiaB for almost 8 years and never had a problem.

I've just received the tip from Kent - PG Music, I'll try it right now ---

Mike


BiaB Ultrapak+, actual/latest Version, 64 bit, Win 11 PRO, i7-12700 K/3.60 GHz, 32 GB RAM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Hello Kent,

Of course I can delete the two files, but I need the UA-101 audio / midi interface after all ...? As I may have already mentioned, BiaB works very well with the many sample songs of the program, but if I load my song file and it should be played, then the program crashes. It is strange that I worked and experimented with the song for at least two hours, tried real-time tracks and rendered a lot ... it always ran smoothly ... but eventually the crash .... maybe I should once a new BiaB-Fester open and re-enter the chords, load various real-time tracks ... then save under a different name .... maybe then the song / file is played without disturbances, but it is still strange ...


BiaB Ultrapak+, actual/latest Version, 64 bit, Win 11 PRO, i7-12700 K/3.60 GHz, 32 GB RAM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,033
Veteran
Online Happy
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,033
Deleting the two files as suggested by Kent only resets BIAB fully to default settings. Then you test BIAB, and finally connect the Roland and set your drivers. It's basically a way to make sure BIAB works fine without the Roland, as a means of isolating the problem.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Originally Posted By: Noel96
Just to be clear about "Run as administrator"...

This is different from logging into Windows as admin. To start BIAB using 'Run as administrator', right-click on the program and select 'Run as administrator'.

When I read your post, my first thought was that it could be a driver issue with your Roland. Like Fiddler suggests, I'd see if a more recent update is available.



I have the latest Windows 10 driver for the audio midi interface UA-101 installed.
It can not be the driver of the UA-101, because I have the same problem recently with my Windows 7 computer and BiaB (now currently BiaB 2018 V.512), with which I have worked for almost 8 years without problems. There were never any problems with the UA-101 and BiaB.
It seems that only with my new song are these problems that I'm working on right now and that I'm not getting ready at the moment. BiaB's own song files are played without any problems. There are no driver problems, nothing.


BiaB Ultrapak+, actual/latest Version, 64 bit, Win 11 PRO, i7-12700 K/3.60 GHz, 32 GB RAM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Deleting the two files as suggested by Kent only resets BIAB fully to default settings. Then you test BIAB, and finally connect the Roland and set your drivers. It's basically a way to make sure BIAB works fine without the Roland, as a means of isolating the problem.


OK, I'll test it right now ... thank you


BiaB Ultrapak+, actual/latest Version, 64 bit, Win 11 PRO, i7-12700 K/3.60 GHz, 32 GB RAM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Originally Posted By: Mike HP.

It seems that only with my new song are these problems that I'm working on right now and that I'm not getting ready at the moment. BiaB's own song files are played without any problems. There are no driver problems, nothing.
You could try export it as midi file, and then re-import, take notes of the RTs used first etc ... F

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
I deleted the two named files in the Preferences folder and started BiaB.

Basically nothing has changed:
BiaB owned/included songs are played without any problems. Of course, I could only see the song progress on the monitor because the UA-101 audio midi interface was disconnected from the computer.

Then I invited my "new" song, started, crash ...

Something must have got mixed up in the program, so that the error occurs again and again.

The whole thing with the connected UA-101 and the deleted files, I have not tried again, it is definitely not on the ROLAND device. It has to be in my "new" song file.

Now I can copy the two deleted files back to the Preferences folder, because it's all as usual, my "new" song will not play after the rendering of the realtracks, although a few days ago I'll experiment with it for at least two hours have ... The error, the problem is not the UA-101 driver, no malware, no virus ...

Whether it will be useful if I re-enter the song in a new BiaB project window, with all the chords, etc. ... maybe the problem is resolved ...?

Mike

Last edited by Mike HP.; 02/21/18 08:30 AM.

BiaB Ultrapak+, actual/latest Version, 64 bit, Win 11 PRO, i7-12700 K/3.60 GHz, 32 GB RAM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,033
Veteran
Online Happy
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,033
Yes, this test is to narrow down the problem, which it looks like you have done. Corrupt song files are rare but they can occur. Try reconstructing the song in another song of a different name, and see.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Yes, this test is to narrow down the problem, which it looks like you have done. Corrupt song files are rare but they can occur. Try reconstructing the song in another song of a different name, and see.


Thanks Matt (and all the other colleagues),
For the first time I have this problem ...
So I'm going to re-enter the song .... tedious work ... but if it helps (hopefully)

If I have achieved something, however, I will contact you again. THANK YOU!

Mike


BiaB Ultrapak+, actual/latest Version, 64 bit, Win 11 PRO, i7-12700 K/3.60 GHz, 32 GB RAM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,814
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,814
Mike,

Try using RealBand to open your Band-in-a-Box file. Once the file loads save the file under a new name but keep the same file suffix (SGU or MGU). You may find once the file is used and saved by another program the file works. Sometimes opening a file with a different program will have the side effect of repairing the file. RealBand can open files with both the SGU or MGU file suffix.


Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,165
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,165
Sometimes the simplest solution is to 'Save As' and rename it, as this writes the song to a new location on the hard drive and can eliminate some hardware issues. Just a thought.


I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Originally Posted By: rharv
Sometimes the simplest solution is to 'Save As' and rename it, as this writes the song to a new location on the hard drive and can eliminate some hardware issues. Just a thought.
Meaning time for a 'checkdisk' with 'fix errors' ?

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,216
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,216
Originally Posted By: rharv
Sometimes the simplest solution is to 'Save As' and rename it, as this writes the song to a new location on the hard drive and can eliminate some hardware issues. Just a thought.


I do this every time I have a major change to my songs. I label them songtitle, songtitle-1, songtitle-2, etc. If you need HD space just delete those songtitles that lead to your finished piece of music.


Whenever I get something stuck in the back of my throat, I dislodge it by drinking a beer.
It's called the Heineken Maneuver.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins

Join the conversation on our forum.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac Videos

With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll also keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.

From overviews of new features and walkthroughs of the 202 new RealTracks, to highlights of XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAKs 18, the 2025 49-PAK, and in-depth tutorials — you’ll find everything you need to explore what’s new in Band-in-a-Box® 2025.

Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Mac Videos — we’ll be adding more videos as they’re released!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until July 31, 2025! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!

Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.

Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano

Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!

Bonjour à tous,

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music

Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:

BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation

Voilà, enjoy!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!

Die deutsche Version Band-in-a-Box® 2025 für Windows ist ab sofort verfügbar!

Alle die bereits die englische Version von Band-in-a-Box und RealBand 2024 installiert haben, finden hier die Installationsdateien für das Sprachenupdate:

https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025.exe
https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025RB.exe

Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!

Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Stay up to date—get the latest update now!

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,300
Posts777,477
Members39,612
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
honeyvip, weedindubai, Claudio Paolini, bjornen71, CATBELLOU
39,614 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 149
zedd 120
DC Ron 106
nonchai 104
WaoBand 102
rsdean 87
Today's Birthdays
timbalera, WineRider
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5