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Originally Posted By: kybordr
Kudos!

Thanks, kybordr!


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Great beautiful pop song, lovely chords progression with all those nice maj7 chords, excellent arrangement, I like especially the drums and violins. This has some nice Neil Finn vibe. And your singing is nice, I hope too that you don't have to use so much pitch correction in the future smile I'll be waiting for your next song.

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Originally Posted By: jannesan
And your singing is nice, I hope too that you don't have to use so much pitch correction in the future smile I'll be waiting for your next song.

Hi, Janne.

I see what you did there! laugh

I'm a big fan of the group America, and a sucker for that major 7th sound. And the BiaB string trio has a very lovely sound.

I've been trying something different with my songwriting these days. I typically start with lyrics, and then work out a melody and a (hopefully) interesting chord progression.

Now, I'm starting with a chord progression, trying to build a melody with a strong chorus, and then adding the lyrics.

I end up using much simpler chord changes which actually come across as better than before. Lesson learned.

That said, I changed the chorus from:

Dmaj7 | Dmaj7 | Gmaj7 | Gmaj7

to:

Dmaj7 F#m/D | A/D F#m/D |Gmaj7 Bm/G | D/G Bm/G

I don't really think of that as changing the chord progression, though - it's basically the same harmony. It was more a trick to get some additional movement from the strings.

Thanks for listening! smile


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This is a beautiful song, David! Really like your arrangement. All the orchestration works really well together. Very well thought out. I agree, it ends a little abruptly. Your voice sounds good, really fits this genre. This one is good enough to make the extra effort to redo your lead vocals without so much pitch correction (intended as a compliment). Great job on the harmonies. Very much enjoyed this. Would like to hear more like it!

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Hi, David !


This is the best
I´ve heard from you
and that means it is
just fantastic !

Love those nice mayor 7th:s or 9th:s

Cheers
Dani

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David, what a pretty sound!! To me a very late 70’s sounding pop tune! This to me sounds like something the group America would have done! It has a really pretty chorus in it! I could just hear Gerry Beckley singing this! Very nice work! Thanks, Torrey

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Originally Posted By: Steve Young
This is a beautiful song, David!

Coming from you, that's quite a compliment! smile

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This one is good enough to make the extra effort to redo your lead vocals without so much pitch correction (intended as a compliment).

And taken as such, thanks!

My son is working on a remix, and I'll post that when he gets done. After that I'll put this aside, and revisit it later once I've got better control of my voice.

Speaking of redoing a song, I was sorry to hear about you losing your hard drive. I lost my backup drive last year, with years of family photos on it. Fortunately, I was able to find a service to recover most of them, but it wasn't cheap. So I feel your pain. frown

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Great job on the harmonies. Very much enjoyed this. Would like to hear more like it!

So would I. wink I'll see what I can do.


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Originally Posted By: dani48
This is the best I´ve heard from you
and that means it is just fantastic !

Thanks, Dani.

Even the 11ths are quite nice! grin


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Originally Posted By: Torrey Bliss
This to me sounds like something the group America would have done! It has a really pretty chorus in it!

Thanks, Torrey!


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Hey Dave,

This is really awesome. What a beautiful production.

I can tell you put a lot of work into this. I like everything about the it, the vocals, the lyrics, the arrangement.

Super piece of work. So good to have posting!!

smile

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Loved this David.

Strong melody and tasteful harmonies.
Reminds me a little of some of my favorite King Crimson sounds (from long ago).

Tasteful indeed.

Cheers.

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Originally Posted By: David Snyder
This is really awesome. What a beautiful production.

Hi, David.

It's good to hear from you. I'm glad you enjoyed it!


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Originally Posted By: RichMac
Reminds me a little of some of my favorite King Crimson sounds (from long ago).

Hi, RichMac.

I'm glad it brought back good memories for you! smile

Thanks for stopping by!


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David,

This is excellent! A very cool song and great vocal - love what you did with the track selection and mix.

Bob

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Originally Posted By: rsdean
A very cool song and great vocal - love what you did with the track selection and mix.

Hi, Bob.

Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate the feedback.


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David,
I agree with all the kudos- this is very well done! Such a pretty melody on the chorus and your vocal doubles and harmonies work very well.Nice strings too.
I have the same issue with an underpowered computer struggling to handle all the tracks- in RealBand anyway - it sure makes mixing a bigger headache, so I admire your perseverance with this!

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Originally Posted By: Robertkc

I have the same issue with an underpowered computer struggling to handle all the tracks- in RealBand anyway - it sure makes mixing a bigger headache, so I admire your perseverance with this!

Hi, Robert.

Yeah, it's past time for an upgrade, but it's not in the budget.

Usually the CPU issue are the VST effects. I can typically render stems so that I'm working with a plain .wav file, but for some reason getting the Waves VSTs has been a challenge. I think I've got a workaround for that, but that'll wait for future productions.

Also, I've typically added the mastering effects after the mix chain. I think I'll change my workflow by rendering a final mix, and then do mastering as a separate process. That'll take a small load off the computer.

Anyway, thanks for the kudos! They're appreciated.


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I'm late to the party, really glad that I could hear this and I agree with everything that has already been said. But am I the only one that heard a touch of The Beatles in this? That was the first group that came to mind when you started to sing, which BTW was absolutely outstanding.

You should write and sing more often.

I think this is the best you have ever done.

This is a keeper.


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I'm late to the party, really glad that I could hear this and I agree with everything that has already been said.

Hi, Mario.

That's my line! There are too many excellent songs posted here, and far too few adjectives not already used by the time I get around to listening! wink

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blush I'll do what I can, thanks!


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Bravo! Great song writing! Fill with engaging elements throughout.

A creative chorus and strong lyrics, lush instrument choices and flourishes, dreamy harmonies.

And the auto-tune/chorus effect on the vocal is a great choice. It reminds me of the band 10cc.

super job!

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