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I am planning to buy BIAB 2018, which I have never used before. I am recently retired and am looking to significantly improve my guitar playing skills. I've played guitar most of my life. I also have been playing mandolin for about 10 years. Most of my playing is at home. However, I also play both mandolin and guitar in a contemporary worship band at church a couple of times a month. My goals include:

Improving my fretboard knowledge (I am also working through several music theory books right now)

Adding backing band accompaniment to my solo playing to add structure, improve timing / rhythm and add a fun factor to my playing

Significantly improve my jazz guitar skills, which are pretty basic

Improve my country jazz / swing skills by playing in a band context

Improve my blues / jazz / country soloing skills by playing in a band context.

Produce lead sheets (and sample music tracks) for use by our worship band.

I am planning to by either BIAB 2018 Pro or the MegPAK version. My question is: is the additional content included with BIAB 2018 MegPAK worth the additional $140 over the Pro version?

Any input you can provide will be appreciated!

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Welcome to the forums.

Thanks for explaining your goals so clearly.

This subject comes up regularly. The very short answer is to purchase the best package that you can afford, especially if you intend to take advantage of a wider genre of musical styles, as you have indicated.

The Pro Pack is really a very light version and I think you will find restrictions of available styles fairly quickly. In my view, the MegaPak is definitely the best starting point.


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Also.... keep in mind that PG Music offer a 30-day, money-back guarantee.

A number of people of these forums have used this to start with the basic package and then, when they know the program a little better and understand what it can do, they ask for a refund towards a more comprehensive version of the software (within the 30-day time frame).

This is something that you should discuss with the sales staff before buying.

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Agree with the recommendation to by the best package you can afford. I upgraded from 2008 which was a total step change and then upgraded the package I'd bought because in using the program I found so many things to play around with and wanted the ultimate in flexibility. The more you have the greater the possibilities.

You do end up with things you'll never use - I'll never need a 9/8 celtic style - but you'll be surprised at what you do use.

And BIAB is a one time investment. Buy the full program with all the addons just once and annual updates are usually just $99 so once you've invested staying up to date is inexpensive.

Plus you get the best product support i've ever seen for a software package. PG staff are helpful and knowledgeable and the forums are great. THat's useful because the manuals are detailed but huge.

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I was in the same position as you. Go well past the Pro pack, you will not be satisfied with what is available there. The ultra pack is the minimum I would recommend plus add ons if affordable.


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I would also check out the FAQ's at this link.

http://www.pgmusic.com/salesfaq1.htm

Also keep in mind that if funds are a wee bit short or tight, PG Music will let you set up an interest free automatic payment plan to keep the initial outlay down.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
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Maybe not the answer you were looking for, but - Ditto!


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I will probably go ahead and get the UltraPak based on the recommendations of this thread.

And thank you to all of you that took the time to provide input. It's very much appreciated!

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Well, you really can't go wrong with the Ultra. You still won't have every style, but I believe they also give you a discount on the addon packs not included with the Ultra. I think there's an additional four more packs.

It's a little confusing. :-)


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Well, you really can't go wrong with the Ultra. You still won't have every style, but I believe they also give you a discount on the addon packs not included with the Ultra. I think there's an additional four more packs.


What you will get are almost all of the RealTracks (minus those in the additional 25-packs, 49-packs, etc that they offer each year, and others that were only available specific years). However, while the XTRA RealStyles are nice, they are just style files created based on existing RealTracks. If you new which RealTracks were in the styles (don't ask, because I'm happy for PGMusic to sell their products), then you can easily create your own. They took the hard work of figuring out which RealTracks played well together and bundled them in styles. But even without the additional XTRA RealStyles, in theory, you can do everything someone with them can do, because you'll have the underlying RealTracks anyway.

That being said, I highly recommend the RealStyles, because it is clear PGMusic put a lot of work into figuring out the various combinations that work well together.


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I'm late to the discussion but do have some thoughts you might want to consider.

First, consider purchasing the Groove 3 video series, +++ Band-in-a-Box Explained +++. Both the Windows and Mac video series are presently on sale for $23.33 US. I suggest purchasing and downloading the video series so you will always have it available for use as a quick reference. Each video is 3 to 7 minutes long and the complete series is less than 1 1/2 hour. It will answer MANY questions you never even thought to ask.

Second, Band-in-a-Box for Windows user Joanne Cooper has a video series, +++ Creating Your First Song With Band-in-a-Box for Windows +++ that is very reasonably priced. She provides step-by-step instructions on how to create a song from start to finish. Many forum users have stated her video series gave them a starting workflow process to follow.

I'm positive these two products are worthy investments that will save you much time and frustration.

Get them now, watch them and get a jump start on your Band-in-a-Box experience.


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Like many others I started with the Pro version but soon found I wanted more. I then looked at the bits I wanted and found it was more economical to go directly to the UltraPak (for my needs I can't justify the Audiophile). I also have most extra Paks. I find with the UltraPak I have that much stuff available I can spend hours, if not days going through styles mixing and matching RealTracks then I come up with something I wasn't expecting that inspires me to another song. Unlike some I do a lot of this just for my entertainment and I do find I publicly perform songs I always wanted to but did not have the band for.

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