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The songs forwarded were for the Irish music wanted.

I saw the listing for Hank Williams alts last night and got excited. I need to remix a bunch of my songs for that one and might even write a new one for it.


I agree we all need to stick together. I've tried to start that trend in the Songtradr Facebook group too. So far a couple people have jumped on board.


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That's great Samuel. I got a few on that one too.

Good job.

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P.S. If anyone could do Hank that would be you man!!

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Ok, Hey Pretty Hazel eyes is GREAT. You do that Irish singing PERFECTLY. Ha ha. Awesome.

What was the other one??

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Charlie,

That's a great song. Good luck with that! Going to listen to it now!

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Ok, Just listened to it.

Write five more just like that in the same style while you have a chance and a I think you are shoo in.

Sounds just like him.

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Originally Posted By: David Snyder

You are an animal Bud.

I was just sayin' I think for what Fingers is doing, 8 is all he needs.

But since you are recording Rush in your living room and need 32 mics for the drums I can see how you need the extra horsepower.

I can't wait to hear Xanadu Redux: Return of the Steely Eyed Gargoyle and the Crimson King on Bastille Day: Part Five.

Get on with your bad self.


Hahahaha! Me? Four-five tracks Bud? I just like to not have to close things out if I want to do something else...like check some things on the net or maybe even open a photo or video editor. And you are right...if I just run my DAW and a boat load of plug-ins I'm hitting around 6-7gb fo my ram...but even that is going to cause a lot of swapping out to disc given the overhead of the OS.


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Originally Posted By: Samuel Davis
The songs forwarded were for the Irish music wanted.

I saw the listing for Hank Williams alts last night and got excited. I need to remix a bunch of my songs for that one and might even write a new one for it.

I agree we all need to stick together. I've tried to start that trend in the Songtradr Facebook group too. So far a couple people have jumped on board.


A big ole FWIW.....I think that it helps if you can establish yourself at ST as a specialist, so to speak, in a certain genre -- not that you shouldn't have a lot of other stuff in your catalog. Without even informing us ST featured three of our blues songs in different blues styles sections under their consumer page genre section. Under the Roots section we are in three very short playlists within Delta Blues, Contemporary Blues and Louisiana Blues. We didn't use any "points" to submit to one of their showcases or anything like that. They just appeared there. We would never known it if we had not just been looking around their genre section on the opening buyer's page.

All meaning that I'm guessing that the number of blues songs we have submitted must have triggered somebody at ST to take a look at our catalog and pull a few to feature. Worth considering, I think.


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Congrats David!! Great info too. If I join, there appears to be two options. Is the free okay or are the real opportunities limited to the paid one? What is the difference?

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Hi Josie,

Free is same as paid, but you get to see a few more opportunities for music wanted with paid I believe. Free allows you about 5 submissions per month, 4.99 gives you about 245 credits vs. 35 for fee and it takes 6-7 credits for a submission. I made about 20 submissions this week and have had about 13 forwarded to music supervisors, 65% hit rate (hard to keep track though, but it's been good.) I don't think that's bad. Yeah BIAB.

I only go for the music needed section (right hand side) for two reasons.

1.) It is where the money is.

2.) Under "monetization" or blanket licensing it is impossible to track and I don't know anyone who has ever made a dime on blanket licensing deals of this sort with anyone.

BUT, I have my own Spotify artist account and I get paid every month there so I don't need it.

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We’ve been paid for years via CD Baby through what I would consider to be a blanket license. The invoice shows a world of streaming entities I’ve never heard of in addition to the bigger players. And this was all for one CD that was released in 2003. It’s only $50-80 a check but somebody is collecting it and CDBaby is getting it to us.

I’m clueless as to how it works smile Our licenses from Songtradr are with Mood Media. They are the largest providers of overhead music in the world and own a zillion other companies and have half a million customers. I suspect they will pay up - albeit small amounts but hopefully at least a dime!

And I think having a song licensed even if it’s a blanket license gives it at least a little cred to perhap a music supervisor on the music wanted side who’s looking at it. But what the hell do I know? For practically nothing a month I’ll play the game for a while.


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Glad to see the folks going over to songtradr! Let’s start a Biab revolution! Let’s show them exactly what this wonderful tool can do!

I have had loads of songs selected for the “deals” with the first being nearly a year ago but have yet to see any money. The guy who mixed some of my stuff got a $80 payout the other day,


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Looks like an interesting place.

Can you upload music to songtradr that you have already released on other platforms?

We have music up on CDBaby and that automatically goes to all the digital sites, iTunes, spotify, etc. Can I upload those same songs to songtradr?

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Joanne,

Send me your link. Let's all follow, favorite and help one another.

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Dave,

Don't know about CD Baby, I do mine through Reverb, and I have all my songs published through my own publishing company, and I own everything, so I can do whatever I want, so I would guess you could do.

One catch, I only do the music wanted stuff, I don't do the blanket licensing, though maybe one day I will get over it. My own Spotify account through Reverb is pretty active.

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Yeah, I am using Songtrader and sentric, just started have not had any luck yet, I would like to hear from anyone who actually gets selected on these songs. Keep us posted. My concern is , do they actually select someone and pay them on all of these listings?

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Yeah, I am using Songtrader and sentric, just started have not had any luck yet, I would like to hear from anyone who actually gets selected on these songs. Keep us posted. My concern is , do they actually select someone and pay them on all of these listings?


As far as selecting goes ST has a daily feed of licensed songs. But that could include a license for a one time event, a blanket license or a film placement. There is obviously no way to tell how much anybody got paid or for what nor should there be IMO. We are contracted with Crucial Music and we had to sign a LONG non disclosure agreement. If a company licenses you for background music they aren’t interested in you posting everywhere “that’s me on tv!”

Also you mentioned do “they” select someone. Songtradr reviews your submission and rejects it or “short lists” it for further review. That further review may result in it becoming a “finalist” which means it is then submitted to the music supervisor of the company that requested the song. Of course the music supervisor has probably looked at other song libraries. Meaning their ultimate choice may likely not even be from ST’s referrals. It’s a long shot.

Regarding our eight months on ST we have been shortlisted 59 times, made the finals many times and been licensed 14 times (all for a blanket license). Our nearly 300,000 views/plays come from being added to various playlists - some featured by ST and others for which I’m clueless as to the origin as they do not let you know anything other than you were added.

ST apparently wants you to submit your whole catalog and use them like SoundCloud. I have some doubts regarding their longevity but hope they do well.

Bud


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Hi Guys

Here is my profile on ST.
http://www.songtradr.com/joanne.cooper


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Okay, I joined but just the free for now until I find my way around and understand it all better. I haven't uploaded any music yet. I've followed Joanne and David. I tried to follow others but unsure what names to search for ...so if you want me to follow you, please put your link on here or just follow me and I'll follow you back.
http://www.songtradr.com/josie.beck

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Okay, I just followed you and favorited your first song. Will go back and do more later.

Sounds great!

Feel free to follow me too!

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Josie,

I am now following you and I DEMAND a song to favorite!!

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Thanks for the info Bud, I think this is my address on ST. www.songtradr.com/cliff.dykes

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I am following you Cliff. Your first song is great and I favorited it.

Will listen to more later.

All for one and one for all!!!

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