Could some of you check this out for me, please. Is it an issue with my system or the RealTracks?
Using BIAB 2018 Build 513, I entered the chords for Jim Croce's Time in a Bottle and selected _CACTUS.STY as a suitable style. Then, when auditioning each instrument via the Solo button, I noticed dropouts in RT 2055; Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking CountryWaltzBrent Sw 140.
To check this I opened another BIAB window and entered a I, iim, IV, V7 progression over several keys and found that RT 2055 only played the V7 chords. I went back to Time in a Bottle which has some 6ths, min6ths, 7ths, etc. and realized that only the "numbered" chords were playing. To confirm this I randomly altered the other progression to include 6ths, 7ths, 9ths etc. and again only the "numbered" chords played.
This also occurs with; RT 2054; Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking CountryWaltzBrent Sw 110. RT 2053; Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking CountryWaltzBrent Sw 85.
I checked out the other Fingerpicking Waltz RTs (very few) and they seem OK.
Just a thought - do you have it set for "Natural Arrangements"?
As far as I can tell, "changing" an SGU from what I have inputted to their suggested Natural Arrangement because I have a certain percentage of, by definition therefore, UN-NATURAL chords, like your min6ths etc, robs it of its required complexity.
Perhaps the recorded guitar player didnt record them at PG, which I would have thought a tad odd a) considering that Mr Brent knows more chords than I ever will ;-) and b) these kind of styles REQUIRE subtlety of chording, not just wham-bam.
What happens if you input the chords in English? lol. Do they come out right or are they still not there?
Cheers ian
Last edited by sixchannel; 04/02/1801:38 AM.
Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10
The RTs are playing over the "numbered" chords, e.g. DMaj7, Gm6 etc. but dropping out on the "plain" chords, e.g. D, Gm etc.
I used the Roman numerals to indicate that on my test progression I had entered 4 bars, C,Am,F,G7, i.e. I, iim, IV, V7 then repeated several times changing key each time, so the next line entered was D,Bm,G,A7 and so on. Standard chord lettering was used on all tests.
The RTs are playing over the "numbered" chords, e.g. DMaj7, Gm6 etc. but dropping out on the "plain" chords, e.g. D, Gm etc.
I used the Roman numerals to indicate that on my test progression I had entered 4 bars, C,Am,F,G7, i.e. I, iim, IV, V7 then repeated several times changing key each time, so the next line entered was D,Bm,G,A7 and so on. Standard chord lettering was used on all tests.
Sorry for any confusion.
Regards Vintage
My understanding is that IF you have it set on Natural Arrangement it will ignore your Dmaj7 and just give you D, ignore your Gm6 and give you Gm and so on.
I really dont get the point of NA - IF I wanted a plain D, I would type in a plain D. If I wanted the maj7 I would type it in and expect it to play it.
I hope someone with more in depth knowledge can contribute here and correct me if I've got it wrong.
Cheers Ian
Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10
The RTs I quoted are playing over the Dm7, G6 etc. but over the "plain" chords there is silence. All other RTs in that style perform as expected as do other Fingerpicked Acoutic Guitars that I tried.
I also tried with and without Natural Arrangement as you suggested, no difference.
I suspect the three RTs are at fault as others I tried are OK.
If someone can replicate this using the same RTs I will pass it on to support.
Well, i posted this with PG; frozen and all, Kent probably saw it, and no reply yet:
i have some issues with RT 591, Scott Vestals soloist banjo, a very useful one for me in creating backing tracks for (bluegrass) fiddle students.
At times it misses a half bar, often at the beginning of a chorus, re-generating some times fixes that. Yesterday i was messing with a BIAB MGU exchanging these two styles within the arrangement for a few bars between 590 and 591.
Then when i imported the MGU in to REALBAND (v5), at the style change bars, there where simply gaps at these bar numbers, across all (realband) tracks.
BTW i couldn't edit-access these changes as with BIAB's bar Settings menu. Is there a trick for that in Realband? - F
I did get the drop-outs in your frozen song, but not when I unfroze and regenerated, so I'd say you just need to reinstall RealTracks set 187. I've added a link to your online account.
Noel, That looks pretty horrible and can only suggest that, since Kent didn't pick this up from the same files that I emailed yesterday, it may be caused by Dropbox.
re New file; I made several new files using these RTs with the BLANK34.STY and others, all with the same dropouts.
re XML; I have never used this.
Have just opened this song in RB using the right click menu, something definitely strange.
I have RB set not to generate tracks when opening .SGU or .MGU but this generated RT's and MIDI, complete with dropouts in RT2055 and its MIDI. Also, instead of naming the tracks as normal, they are named BB RealBass 0: J_SWING, BB RealPiano 0 etc.
On a new track I generated another instance of RT2055, guess what, no drop outs.
Closed all this by selecting New file and not saving then re-opened from File, recently used. Generated as before except this time tracks are named BB RealBass 2055: Guitar Acou, BB RealPiano 2055: etc. and only two MIDI tracks were generated.
Files made using BLANK34.STY and RT2053, 2054, 2055 behaved as above when opened in RB.
Tried a few recent .SGU or .MGU files that do not contain RTs 2053, 2054, or 2055; opened as expected with no tracks generated.
Tried your suggestion of opening in RB and saving as Newname.SGU, same dropouts when opened in BIAB.
In a new BIAB file re-entered the same chord progression using BLANK34.STY, then generated the same RTs as _CACTUS.STY substituted RT2055 with RT823. The resulting .SGU has no issues in BIAB or RB.
This points me towards RT2053, 2054, 2055 as the problem.
I have a couple of work around that will let me move on with this song, but I really would like this to be resolved.
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window
In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
Playable RealTracks Set 5
RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you over the phone. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday, and 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST Saturday. We are closed Sunday. You can also send us your questions via email.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you on our Live Chat or by email. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday; 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST (GMT -8) Saturday; Closed Sunday.
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean