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David that made me laugh. Thank you.
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Congratulations David, my songs aren't worth posting on that site yet, but you definitely have some skills.
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Thanks Cool Breeze,
Can't wait to hear your stuff.
If you are like the rest of us, you are probably a lot better than you think.
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FWIW, and this is but a tangent just to weigh in, YMMV: 4 Gigs of ram seems to work fine for me...nary a glitch, low latency, running lots of tracks and effects. Reaper, Focusrite (firewire), Windows 7 Pro (64), Intel 2.67 GHz processor
I had 6 gig but after many years (this is a really old machine...like well over 10 years now maybe?) had to pull two bad sticks..and I found that 4 gigs seems to work just fine, at least so far. Weird.
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That is not strange at all actually. I read a post on another forum not too long ago where someone was bragging about having 16 gigs and a producer/engineer posted back: "16 gigs? Who do you think you are, Max Martin?" 
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It’s more than simply whether it will work. It’s how tolerant one is of slow routines. How long do you want to wait to regenerate multiple realtracks. How long to render a video for test purposes. It’s all in what you do. I just happen to like minimal disc swapping out, etc. I’ve run maxed out ram home computers for 30+ years. It’s nothing to brag about - the is cost not much if you do the installation. If you don’t need more horsepower no worries. For me patience has always been a virtue hard to come by. FWIW!
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It seems unlikely that anyone has less patience than I, but I'm willing to concede the remote possibility.
But seriously, good point J&B. My implausible patience is probably this simple: I don't use BIAB all that much; and, now that I think about it, it is the only tool in my music production pipeline where there's any kind of waiting around. Not a whole lot, but some. In Reaper or elsewhere, even final renders are really fast. In fact, only with renders is there ANY waiting! Everything else happens in a blink, or less.
But now that I'm thinking about it, there's no need for me put up with it if I decide it's a problem (here's hoping for a flush of inspiration if not impatience) ...it's so easy to install some memory, and it would only cost me...hold on a sec... 46 bucks for 8 gigs of brand new ram.
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David,
Did you opt for the free or pay version of Songtradr? Just wondering if there's any real benefit to paying for their perks.
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I used up all of my submission credits last month to submit about 40 songs I guess, of which half got forward to music supervisors. That was 240 credits used. Free is 35 credit. I am playing the numbers game. Since I never visit Starbucks even once a month I am breaking even at 4.99 If I had joined another place I won't mention to submit some songs that might not have gone anywhere I would have spent $300 pus 5 x 40 which I believe is $500. Any more questions?
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Yea...I tried the "other place" on and off over the years. I always thought it was a rip. Just taking advantage of songwriters desperation, whatever, to line their own pockets. The proof is in the pudding. If you get a check, that's the proof. I watched this review before I joined and opted for the free version for the time being. We'll see what happens. Here's the review. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk3_9exuR-MNewbies to the music biz still think it's a shortcut to fame and fortune. If it EVER was, those days are long gone. Especially with the advent of streaming and the pitiful returns to songwriters. Seems there's always someone coming up with a new way to rip the poor old musicians and songwriters. Gotta be a labor of love to keep you in it. 
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Following you too man. Your songs are great by the way. I will try to listen to more of them as I go along...
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Yeah,
I saw the video and I don't think it makes a lot of sense--to me. Since I am going for music wanted. They have to pay their start up light bills and listen to a lot of songs and pay their kids at least $12 an hour so they can vet them before they send the songs to a music supervisor or their name will be mud. I get that. I have no problem with 4.99 for 250 credits.
I just like having the cues to write to every day--it is forcing me to write fast, hooky, punchy and get 'er done. I am also trying to flex muscles I haven't tried to flex in a while. And it is forcing me to get serious about mixing, and that is good for me.
So that alone is worth it--the fun factor. And if you have looked around, there is some serious talent on that site. You're in good company.
Again, if they aren't lying that they have sent 20 songs from me in the past two weeks to music supervisors they can keep taking my 4.99. It's a cup of coffee. Go for it. I am having fun.
The other place you mentioned I feel and always have felt is a total rip.
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I'm with David. I love the challeng of writing to the specs wanted. It is also forcing me to try out different genres and styles of music.
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Well, good luck to everybody!!
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The first person who lands a sync on Songtradr needs to brag about it here.....
But of course we will.....
Compared to the other California company named after a car...... ST is a GREAT deal at $5/mo for access to the listings. As long as it stays affordable.... I'll stay but when they start jacking the cost to pay for that California beachfront mansion on the hill.
However......
So far, NONE of my placements have been through any of the paid sites. All of them are through the companies I have found by myself that cost nothing other than the time and effort to locate them and send them the music.
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You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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roger the above, any one that lands a deal needs to let us all know, I pay the 5 bucks, which is nothing for the amount of submits allowed. I am happy with ST so far.
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The first person who lands a sync on Songtradr needs to brag about it here.....
But of course we will.....
Compared to the other California company named after a car...... ST is a GREAT deal at $5/mo for access to the listings. As long as it stays affordable.... I'll stay but when they start jacking the cost to pay for that California beachfront mansion on the hill.
However......
So far, NONE of my placements have been through any of the paid sites. All of them are through the companies I have found by myself that cost nothing other than the time and effort to locate them and send them the music. I have one "Sync Licence" through ST already on the deals section. I'm concentrating on the "Music Wanted" listings now. Honestly I'm not even sure how the "Deals" board is working now that it has switched to "Monitization"
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We have a two year, auto renewable, license with Mood Media for 14 songs obtained via Songtradr. FWIW, etc.
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I was under the impression that BIAB being a 32bit application it could only access up to 4gig. This comes up a lot on the forums. If you're on an older 32 bit system then you're correct, more memory is irrelevant. But, if you are running a 64 bit system then you're incorrect. A lot of confusion comes from people thinking they can't run a 32 bit program on a 64 bit system. Not true. Then there's a program called JBridge that PG sells that allows you to use 64 bit plugins with a 32 bit host such as Biab. The plugins (meaning VST's and VSTi's) now think they're running on a 64 bit host so they can access all the memory you have including 32 gigs or more if you needed it. The big software sound libraries can be using 2 or 3 gigs just for one piano instrument so if you have a bunch of tracks and they're all using large sample libraries, all that has to get loaded into ram before you can hear anything. In the old days using something like Gigasampler, we had to record one or two tracks at a time then freeze them, remove the VST from those tracks and record another 2 because of lack of ram. That's not a problem now usually. That's the main reason for extra memory. That and speed of course. To the main topic of this thread you people here are awesome! This is some of the best info I've ever seen in one place and a huge thank you to you, David. Bob
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