Originally Posted By: eddie1261

Not quite true but that is moot. The point of it is the word "formulaic". Also research the famous Pachelbel chord progression if 1-5-6m-4 (think "Don't Stop Believin'", and hundreds of others). That is the point for the example, is that songs are formulaic. "You write with that chord pattern, and make sure your song is EXACTLY 3:34 long, and we will polish your turd and get it on the radio for you!" Pitch and time shifting doesn't matter. All those songs use the same progression. That's kind of the definition of formulaic.


Of course there are popular chord progressions. Even the free-est of spirits understands the sonic rules of chord relativity. Chords have to be drawn from the scale of the root chord to sound any kind of pleasing.

Totally agree. It's a progression I, and many others like. smile

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Your comment about being "the culture" is the problem for me. I don't want to be black. I am not going to live in that "culture". I am fine with being white in my culture, free of sexual abuse of women, drugs as a daily way of life....

I'm not condoning it; just stating that unfortunately that is more and more becoming the norm. Even network TV does it's best to tip toe around it with bleeps or cutting the sound. Things have changed. I would no doubt say for the worse.

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Just how much of a music background do you have exactly, "Hear" To Learn? (Was that a music pun or do you truly not know "hear" from "here"?)


Oh trust me, I listen plenty. I think you will see a fairly low number of posts from me overall. I read a lot, and say things now and then. Many times they will go against what many hear believe, yet they may be more in line with what is happening in the music industry.

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I looked back 6 weeks in the forum and you have apparently never posted a song.

You are correct. In those 6 weeks I haven't. Never? I have posted 2. You commented on 1 of them I believe.

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Some of your comments seem deliberately outlandish and provocative, and appear to be there just to stir up controversy.

Me or you? lol I find it humorous you would be the one to say this; but I'll play along. I think on this forum my statements may seem that way at times. It's simply a different view that I hold verses many here. It's not an unpopular view. Just perhaps not as popular here. I'm not going to change it to appease people. Sorry if that doesn't fit your mold.

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That makes me wonder if you are involved with music at all or just an internet troll looking to poke the bears.

I have significance beyond this forum so no need to gain it here. I do believe in doing what I can to bring something different to, hopefully, help the product overall. I love the company, and I love the product. I believe I even have the respect of the people I respect on the forum. I may be wrong, but feel that may be the case. That doesn't mean we always agree, and I have learned A TON from many people on here. I believe they also know that, as I have expressed it. Troll? Far from it. Look for the guy/girl that ONLY seems to stir things up with his/her opinions and doesn't really offer anything beyond be against everything and I think you will find a troll. smile

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Please do respond to that so we know to whom we are speaking. If you are truly "hear" to learn, you don't appear to be learning as much as arguing with people.


Again, from you? Ok. There are people on the forum who know me and to some extent my credentials. I don't feel the need to list them to validate myself. I'm here for those who are looking for something other than is provided currently. There are some AMAZING writers and musicians here. They know, undoubtedly, I feel that way. There are also some people who excel WAY beyond the scope of this forum. I highly treasure them.

I'm sorry if it bothers you when someone calls you out on calling something "crap" that you couldn't do. After all, I feel that is the heart of what happened here. I told you I don't care for it either, but I also am man enough to admit that's beyond what I can do. I'm talking the WHOLE package. Not just the simplicity of the song. Just like you said they don't want to see you rap. They don't want to see me either! wink

So if you think I'm a troll with no musical ability; oh well. I seriously could care less. Not meant to offend. Just saying.

(by the way, I may have misspelled "here/hear" in this to add to the fun and confusion)

Last edited by HearToLearn; 04/27/18 11:39 AM.
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