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#473425 05/18/18 09:00 AM
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To me, the showcase is NOT like an "Elvis has left the building" concert. It's like a venue where people are still able to connect with you. When I performed live people were always coming up to me saying nice things. I never ignored a person just because I had already said thank you to the whole crowd and left the stage. No, I stopped, listened, smiled and thanked them on the spot where ever they walked up to me. I always thought every person who went out of their way to personally compliment my music deserved to know I appreciated them right there and then.

Not so different here depending on how one chooses to think about it. I still choose to feel that way when people comment on my songs whether it's on the song thread or something they'd rather say in a pm. I respond as soon as I can in kind. The showcase forum is fine as is for me.

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Probably the showcase is FINE for what it intends to do, showcase the songs to a close knit community, lets face it, the music business is very competitive and even if you have a good song, it is unlikely to get many plays on Youtube, if you showcased it there.

SO better to put it in the showcase where you WILL get people to praise it and say well done and clap you on the back. Some praise is better than NO praise, and no harm in that.

At the same time as I do have a good listen to showcase songs, it would be nice for someone to have the courage to say, Please try you songs a different way, there is one user in particular whose vocal setup in each song is always the same, and because of that all the songs mainly sound the same.

But people just praise praise praise, rather than subtly saying maybe try this way for a change.

But then the showcase has nice people in it and it seems they don't wish to offend.

And that is good in a way.

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I agree with Josie. I don't assume that comment replies are gratuitous replies just to bump.

On the first page of the User Showcase, the song with the most views - 538 has 31 comments including replies since the posting on 4/30/18. To date, there were 15 comments, each with a reply from the artist. One comment was made earlier today with no reply yet posted. 15 comments in 19 days is not a very high percentage of viewers who take time to comment and I think it to be gracious to acknowledge a comment rather than gratuitous.

The song on the first page with the most comments only has a total of 46 comments and replies over a 10 day period. That's roughly two comments and replies per day.

You wouldn't think such a minor occurrence would elicit three pages of discussion over a 25 day period so it must strike a chord for both pro and con.


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Originally Posted By: Sundance
To me, the showcase is NOT like an "Elvis has left the building" concert. It's like a venue where people are still able to connect with you. When I performed live people were always coming up to me saying nice things. I never ignored a person just because I had already said thank you to the whole crowd and left the stage. No, I stopped, listened, smiled and thanked them on the spot where ever they walked up to me. I always thought every person who went out of their way to personally compliment my music deserved to know I appreciated them right there and then...


Well put Josie!

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Probably the showcase is FINE for what it intends to do, showcase the songs to a close knit community, lets face it, the music business is very competitive and even if you have a good song, it is unlikely to get many plays on Youtube, if you showcased it there.

SO better to put it in the showcase where you WILL get people to praise it and say well done and clap you on the back. Some praise is better than NO praise, and no harm in that.

At the same time as I do have a good listen to showcase songs, it would be nice for someone to have the courage to say, Please try you songs a different way, there is one user in particular whose vocal setup in each song is always the same, and because of that all the songs mainly sound the same.

But people just praise praise praise, rather than subtly saying maybe try this way for a change.

But then the showcase has nice people in it and it seems they don't wish to offend.

And that is good in a way.


I think we all tend, at times, to forget PG Music's statement at the top of the forum which states in part:

"Indicate which tracks were recorded by you, and which tracks were generated by Band-in-a-Box or RealBand.

If Band-in-a-Box or RealBand have been used, please provide information as to which styles or RealTracks were used. (tip: In Band-in-a-Box, the Song Memo contains the names of the RealTracks used, and you can copy/paste from that.)

List other programs used in the production (Sonar, Cubase etc.)

Describe what effects were used in the production (reverb, auto-tune etc)."

As far as showcasing to a "close knit community" it can be much broader. When PG Music lists a showcase song as a "hot topic" on their splash page or when they add it to their featured SC playlist or when they mention it on facebook the number of listens goes considerably up and comments are made at soundcloud from a rather interesting and diverse group of folks.

There are plenty of places to showcase your songs but only one that is specifically for showing how you used PG Music's products. Regarding the "praise, praise, praise" if a poster asks for feedback regarding their vocal or the mix, etc., he or she will typically receive a lot. If they don't ask (for whatever reason) then responders rarely, and appropriately so IMO, delve into such. We love to hear a posted song that shines in all aspects but we also enjoy studying the RT's/RD's/Midi/MST's/FX, etc., that were used. There are many ways to approach it. FWIW, giant grains of sodium chloride, etc.

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I agree with Josie. I don't assume that comment replies are gratuitous replies just to bump.

On the first page of the User Showcase, the song with the most views - 538 has 31 comments including replies since the posting on 4/30/18. To date, there were 15 comments, each with a reply from the artist. One comment was made earlier today with no reply yet posted. 15 comments in 19 days is not a very high percentage of viewers who take time to comment and I think it to be gracious to acknowledge a comment rather than gratuitous.

The song on the first page with the most comments only has a total of 46 comments and replies over a 10 day period. That's roughly two comments and replies per day.

You wouldn't think such a minor occurrence would elicit three pages of discussion over a 25 day period so it must strike a chord for both pro and con.


Indeed. It's just a repeated one line on an entire word filled website page!

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Brothers and Sisters,

Yea I say unto thee, except that thou come to the forum as a small child knowing nothing, but saying sweet words, it would be better that a mill stone were tied around your neck and you were thrown from the top of your apartment building, chocking and screaming and spitting, until thou didst splatter on the street below with breaking of bones and tearing of flesh and die in thine own fury.

Ah yea, I also say verily unto you that whosoever has never bumped a post, even this one, then feel free to cast a stone, but if you have, it would be better that thou stickest thy finger in a light socket and die with screaming voltage bursting thine eye sockets like squashed tomatoes.

And yea, verily more, I say if thou art vain enough to stand in judgment and reproach protesting the vanity of others, and do so judge, then the judgment thou shalt reap will be more than a hundred fat camels sitting on your face.

And so I say unto thee, I must go bump one of my latest songs because Hear to Learn wants to hear from me, and it is far far better that I should bump a post than risk hurting the feelings of a tender and beloved friend.

And oh, one last thing:

I verily ask of thee:

Which is worst? To post one song a week and say nice things about thy brother, or to post 5 songs a day and say not one word that is not about thyself?

Think about it. Verily.

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Which is worst? To post one song a week and say nice things about thy brother, or to post 5 songs a day and say not one word that is not about thyself?


eeeehhh!!!! let me think .

To keep posting bad songs every time again and again.


Have I answered right your majesty or should I just Bump.


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I say go bump man.

Bump it hard. Bump it 'til it hurts.

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Your wish is my command L.O.L..

Be good or ..?


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Beat it?????

Let's change the terminology from bump to beat.

Then everybody can beat it harder on the forum.

Will that solve the problem Beatmaster???


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Just beat it.



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Going forward,all arguments on the forums should be decided by dance off; like in the beat it video.

I promise you, it would change the dynamic of disagreements on the forum. wink
(Fine David Snyder, you can come in playing a guitar solo on a forklift wink )

If anyone disagrees with that, it was MarioD's idea. smile Just don't ask him about it...he's shy on taking credit for great ideas.

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Originally Posted By: HearToLearn
Going forward,all arguments on the forums should be decided by dance off; like in the beat it video.

I promise you, it would change the dynamic of disagreements one the forum. wink
(Fine David Snyder, you can come in playing a guitar solo on a forklift wink )

If anyone disagrees with that, it was MarioD's idea. smile Just don't ask him about it...he's shy on taking credit for great ideas.


I really can't take credit because of THIS mad


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I really can't take credit because of THIS mad


Ha! I so didn't see that coming! I was sitting here thinking to myself, "what could it be?"

That was funny!


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Who has the home court advantage here???

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Fine David Snyder, you can come in playing a guitar solo on a forklift


Did you say come in playing guitar solo like a forklift...ahhh well David love..

love because in tennis, love means having a score of zero or nil.

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The User Showcase forum post list is now sorted by 'topic start time' by default, and there is a setting at the top of the forum that will change it to sort by the time of the last post, which is what it was previously.

As you know there are additional settings at the bottom of the post list in the Display Options area. The sort settings are not sticky however, so the next time you visit the site it will be sorted by the default (which is currently topic start time for the User Showcase and Last Post Time for others).

Would you want a User Preference to set the default sort order of the User Showcase forums and/or all forums globally?


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The User Showcase forum post list is now sorted by 'topic start time' by default, and there is a setting at the top of the forum that will change it to sort by the time of the last post, which is what it was previously.


Because ONE person wanted it done that way and the majority didn't?? Doesn't make any sense to me, sorry.

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