I've been using BIAB for 24hrs and I am hugely impressed with what it can do. I intend to make some Jazz piano recordings using accompaniments generated using this software, however I am struggling to get the endings sounding correct.
1) The generated endings sound borderline acceptable but I would prefer to use my own.
2) When I add my own ending, BIAB doesn't seem intelligent enough to realise that it is an ending. A simple example is that in the bass a complex rhythm generated is not typical of a closing bar, and the last note is not the tonic.
3) I've tried amending the notes of the generated bass but for some reason this is not recognized when the accompaniment is played.
My simple question is then: how do I go about making convincing endings to BIAB accompaniments in the context of Jazz trio recordings?
Welcome! This one could take a bit of explaining, since each of us may do it differently. First, you can make your own ending instead of accepting the built-in 2 or 4-bar ending BIAB provides by default. Go to Song Settings (Ctrl+N) to see some options in the lower left corner.
I often like to turn off the built-in ending and hold a chord at the end. You can do this easily by typing three periods at the end of the chord, ex. D7...
If you use a hold, make sure to set the ending bar well after it. This can be done by Bar at End of Chorus on the main chord screen, or by the options in the Tag if you use one (also in Song Settings).
If the bass plays the wrong note on an ending chord, force it by using slash root chords, ex. D7/G forces a G in the bass.
There's more, but let's start with that.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Welcome! This one could take a bit of explaining, since each of us may do it differently. First, you can make your own ending instead of accepting the built-in 2 or 4-bar ending BIAB provides by default. Go to Song Settings (Ctrl+N) to see some options in the lower left corner.
I often like to turn off the built-in ending and hold a chord at the end. You can do this easily by typing three periods at the end of the chord, ex. D7...
If you use a hold, make sure to set the ending bar well after it. This can be done by Bar at End of Chorus on the main chord screen, or by the options in the Tag if you use one (also in Song Settings).
If the bass plays the wrong note on an ending chord, force it by using slash root chords, ex. D7/G forces a G in the bass.
There's more, but let's start with that.
Thanks Matt - that's useful. I've already discovered how to create my own endings but, as indicated above, these did not sound good. However the three periods and the slash notation are approaches that I will try out.
Yep... I often create my own endings. I add a number of measures and or turn off the canned endings.
Using the dots after the chords can be useful, but you can also program a RIT ending by changing the tempo in the bar settings. I split a single 4 beat measure into 2 two beat measures and slow the tempo dramatically from one to the next with a hold. You can hear that in a few of my songs. I also use midi and live instruments along with the BB tracks to add interesting aspects to the ending.
If you can imagine it, there's a way to get it done. You just have to think out of the box to do it in most cases. But, done right, it's worth the time. I sometimes spend more time on the ending of the song than I do on the entire rest of it.
Last edited by Guitarhacker; 06/21/1805:27 AM.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.
The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
Thanks for all your help - I've managed to get a decent ending. 24hr into using BIAB and I have a first recording (with a little help from a piano and Reaper):
Thanks for all your help - I've managed to get a decent ending. 24hr into using BIAB and I have a first recording (with a little help from a piano and Reaper):
well there you go!!! that was very cool. and the ending is excellent.... a bit of a slow down.... sweet.
Are you playing the piano all the way through?
Many thanks - yes I'm playing the piano all the way through with BIAB providing the drum and bass only. Here is the same recording on my YouTube channel:
Thanks for all your help - I've managed to get a decent ending. 24hr into using BIAB and I have a first recording (with a little help from a piano and Reaper):
That was a cool jazz version of a very old a famous song.
Great backing tracks with choice of drums and bass.
Cool piano playing.
Congratulations !
Perhaps you could post the url to your uTube channel.
Wow - many thanks for all your kind comments. Here is a link to my YouTube channel - although most of the videos are solo piano (I anticipate more BIAB supported material in the neat future!):
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll also keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.
From overviews of new features and walkthroughs of the 202 new RealTracks, to highlights of XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAKs 18, the 2025 49-PAK, and in-depth tutorials — you’ll find everything you need to explore what’s new in Band-in-a-Box® 2025.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until July 31, 2025! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.
If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!
Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.
Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music
Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:
Band-in-a-Box 2025 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!
Die deutsche Version Band-in-a-Box® 2025 für Windows ist ab sofort verfügbar!
Alle die bereits die englische Version von Band-in-a-Box und RealBand 2024 installiert haben, finden hier die Installationsdateien für das Sprachenupdate:
Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!
Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you over the phone. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday, and 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST Saturday. We are closed Sunday. You can also send us your questions via email.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you on our Live Chat or by email. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday; 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST (GMT -8) Saturday; Closed Sunday.