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I downloaded BIAB 2010 yesterday as well as the Shots and Holds files 1 and 2. There are a lot of great new features in 2010, including Real Tracks Holds.
However, after trying several styles, I was disappointed to see that a significant number of Real Tracks do not hold. Also, a few that do hold have a sound that is quite different from the file for which it is holding. You might not expect some of these instruments to hold (a chopping mandolin, for instance) but if BIAB is going to implement holds for Real Tracks --and I think it's a great new feature -- I think it should work for all Real Tracks.
Below is a list of RTs that do not hold. This is not a complete list, but this what I discovered after trying several styles for an hour or so.
1) 605 Guitar, Chet Pickin' EV 100
2) 592 Bass Acoustic
3) 599 Mandolin
4) 427 Bass, Acoustic, Bluegrass EV 130
5) 426 Banjo Bluegrass, EV 130
6) 431 Guitar Acoustic, Strumming, Bluegrass EV 130
7) 432 Mandolin, Rhythm, Bluegrass EV 130
8) 520 Bass, Electric, Pop Half Notes EV 165
9) 521 Bass, Electric, Pop Syncopated EV 136
10) 590 Banjo, Bluegrass, Doc EV 100
11) 598 Guitar, Acoustic, strumming, Bluegrass, Doc EV 100
12) 540 Bass, Electric, Pop SW 165
13) 615 Harmonica, Background, HeeHaw SW 165
14) 616 Mandolin, Rhythm, Bouncy, SW 165
15) 400 Bass, Acoustic, Jazz Ray SW 160
16) 564 Bass, Electric, Blues Monday SW 65
17) 565 Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Blues Monday SW 065
18) 569 Guitar, Resophonic, Rhythm Blues Delta SW 065
19) 519 Bass Electric, Pop Half Notes EV 120
20) 366 Bass, Electric Country EV 65
21) 687 Harmonica, Background Pop EV 165
22) 579 Bass, Electric Blues Roadhouse EV 120
23) 584 Guitar Resophonic, Rhythm Blues, Roadhouse EV 120
24) 580 Guitar Electric Rhythm Blues, Roadhouse EV 120
25) 388 Bass, Electric Metal EV 120
26) 536 Bass, Acoustic Pop SW 120
27) 609 Guitar Resonator, Background, Roundup SW 120
28) 610 Mandolin Rhythm Chop SW 120
29) 388 Bass, Electric Metal EV 120
30) 502 Guitar, Electric, Rhythm StoneZ Honkey2 Ev 120
31) 411 Guitar, Electric, Thythm Train Pickin' Ev 130
32) 420 Bass Electric, Blues, SW 120
33) 425 Organ B3, Background, Blues SW 120
34) 421 Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Blues SW 120
35) 585 Guitar, Resophonic, Rhythm Blues , Muddy SW 120
36) 579 Bass, Electric, Blues, Roadhouse, EV 120
37) 584 Guitar Resophonic, Rhythm Blues , Roadhouse, EV 120
38) 580 Guitar, Electric, Blues, Roadhouse, EV 120
39) 519 Bass, Electric, Pop Halfnotes EV 120
40) 604 Guitar, Electric, Chet Comp EV 130
41) 533 Bass, Electric 12-8 Crystal SW 065
42) 592 Bass, Acoustic, Bluegrass Doc EV 100
43) 541 Bass, Electric, Pop Sw 190
44) 608 Guitar, Resonator
45) 611 Mandolin, Rhythm Fast Chop SW 190
46) 607 Guitar Nylon Chet Train
The Following RTs have a hold that sounds different enough from the original that it is a problem:
1) 367 Guitar, Electric, Background, Dreamy EV 65
2) 368 Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Ev 065
3) 632 Guitar, Electric, Rhythm, Pop American Muted EV 120
4) 405 Guitar, Acoustic Strumming EV 120
5) 496 Guitar, Electric, Rhythm StoneZ Honkey EV 120
Thanks.
John
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Yes, we will add in those holds for most of those other instruments in a patch, due in a few weeks. There's 370+ RealTracks.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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GREAT news! thanks, Peter! this has been my one biggest desire after real tracks came out!
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Thanks, Peter. Implementing Holds is a great advance for Real Tracks and I will look forward to hearing the new files.
Thanks for all the good work.
John
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Holds for Realtracks? Wow, that is great news!
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