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Bluegrass Rhythm is Out of Synch with the Chords #483721 07/28/18 03:53 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 2 L loganchandler OP Newbie
OP loganchandler Newbie L Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 2	I'm setting up basic fiddle tune/bluegrass practice tracks. I'm using one of the bluegrass styles, set ev-16, BPM130. The chords I'm using come straight out of a book. The problem is that the rhythm is very fast but are out of synch with the chords - the chord changes change are coming too slowly, if that makes any sense. I've tried a different style at ev8, but no luck... Any thoughts

Re: Bluegrass Rhythm is Out of Synch with the Chords loganchandler #483743 07/28/18 10:23 AM Beginners Forum
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TLMelvin Apprentice Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 115 Illinois	Try reducing the number of bars by half https://soundcloud.com/tmelvin-950716356

Re: Bluegrass Rhythm is Out of Synch with the Chords TLMelvin #483762 07/28/18 03:16 PM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,570 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: TLMelvin Try reducing the number of bars by half Does that mean making the song shorter? How would that work? BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Bluegrass Rhythm is Out of Synch with the Chords loganchandler #483763 07/28/18 03:20 PM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,570 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: loganchandler I'm setting up basic fiddle tune/bluegrass practice tracks. I'm using one of the bluegrass styles, set ev-16, BPM130. The chords I'm using come straight out of a book. The problem is that the rhythm is very fast but are out of synch with the chords - the chord changes change are coming too slowly, if that makes any sense. I've tried a different style at ev8, but no luck... Any thoughts Welcome to the forums. Could you tell us the exact name of the style you've used? Maybe someone here can try to reproduce. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Bluegrass Rhythm is Out of Synch with the Chords AudioTrack #483764 07/28/18 03:26 PM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,570 Melbourne, Australia	Also, try: Song Settings (Control-N) and Disable fast generation. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2018-07-29_11-24-45.jpg (110.49 KB, 84 downloads) BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Bluegrass Rhythm is Out of Synch with the Chords AudioTrack #483766 07/28/18 03:40 PM Beginners Forum
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TLMelvin Apprentice Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 115 Illinois	I should have said to go to the song form box and select change chord duration to half. https://soundcloud.com/tmelvin-950716356

Re: Bluegrass Rhythm is Out of Synch with the Chords loganchandler #483823 07/29/18 03:17 AM Beginners Forum
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OP loganchandler Newbie L Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 2	"Changing Song Form" worked perfectly! Many thanks!!

Re: Bluegrass Rhythm is Out of Synch with the Chords loganchandler #483825 07/29/18 04:08 AM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,570 Melbourne, Australia	Excellent. Thanks for letting us know that your problem is resolved. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Bluegrass Rhythm is Out of Synch with the Chords AudioTrack #483932 07/30/18 01:29 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 115 Illinois TLMelvin Apprentice
TLMelvin Apprentice Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 115 Illinois	A lot of tab books are tabbed in 4/4 where it should be 2/2 or cut time. Therefore your tempo would have to be twice as fast. In your case, 260 bpm which is unsuitable for the real tracks so reducing the chord durations by half is one solution. The other would be to set the track time base to half time. https://soundcloud.com/tmelvin-950716356

Re: Bluegrass Rhythm is Out of Synch with the Chords TLMelvin #483952 07/30/18 04:57 AM Beginners Forum
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Narayano Apprentice N Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 137	Can I ask how to find the song form box please. Thanks Narayano

Re: Bluegrass Rhythm is Out of Synch with the Chords Narayano #483987 07/30/18 09:32 AM Beginners Forum
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Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,154 Winston-Salem, NC USA	Originally Posted By: Narayano Can I ask how to find the song form box please. Thanks Narayano The Song Form button is part of the Tools menu. Depending upon your display setting settings it may be visible on the Tools bar or you may have to click on the Tools arrow to open the Tools sub menu window. Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: Bluegrass Rhythm is Out of Synch with the Chords loganchandler #484033 07/30/18 03:09 PM Beginners Forum
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Kent - PG Music PG Music Staff K Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,382	Hi, That'll get you to the Song Form Dialog and Medley Maker, but the Reduce and Expand commands are found in the Edit menu, in the Song Form sub-menu. Cheers Kent PG Music

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