|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112
Apprentice
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112 |
I know some of you collaborate sometimes to write songs, but "what if" we can use the forum to ask for some collaboration open to all the great humans around here? Something like.. "hey musicians! I made this beautiful song but is missing some piano intro or se guitar riff... anyone want to improvise something???" We can even form groups or competitions using the same style.... Just for fun of course... 
------------------------------------------ My music: https://soundcloud.com/ermar-gamarMy stuff: Stratocaster '89, PRS SE Santana, Digitech RP90 Multi Effect, Vocalist Live 3, Digital Piano Korg SP, Studio One 3.5, Presonus Audiobox, BB 2018
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,330
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,330 |
I know some of you collaborate sometimes to write songs, but "what if" we can use the forum to ask for some collaboration open to all the great humans around here? Something like.. "hey musicians! I made this beautiful song but is missing some piano intro or se guitar riff... anyone want to improvise something???" We can even form groups or competitions using the same style.... Just for fun of course... I'd say you just did. I think there's another thread relative to this one which was some months back. Anyway....many here collaborate so I'd guess you'll generate some interest and you got a bump. Good luck on your quest....
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112 |
 You're right.... I wrote the post because sometimes I get very bored playing my stuffm ,mainly because I don't sing... Anyway… was just an idea :-) Or maybe I have to post a song with me singing? :-) I don't think is a good idea.. :-D
------------------------------------------ My music: https://soundcloud.com/ermar-gamarMy stuff: Stratocaster '89, PRS SE Santana, Digitech RP90 Multi Effect, Vocalist Live 3, Digital Piano Korg SP, Studio One 3.5, Presonus Audiobox, BB 2018
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,668
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,668 |
Just look at all the really cool collaborations that people are doing. Collaborating is alive and well here. To me, that's the sign of a healthy musical community.
Often, much of the collaboration takes place behind the scenes. As you listen to the songs, take note of the talents of the folks involved. Do they sing well, do they play an instrument or do they rely totally on RT's? Find someone who has the skills you are looking for. From within the forum, you can PM them to see if they're up for a collab. BTW: just because someone relies totally on the RT's doesn't detract from their ability to write. In fact, it can do just the opposite. Some of the best writers can't play an instrument very well. However.... It frees them from the need to be a master of multiple instruments and concentrate solely on their writing, production, and singing.
Of course, you can also simply just post here in the SONGWRITING forum. THat's one of the main purposes for this forum. Yeah, it's a place to post info on how to write better and all that stuff, but it's also a place to post asking for help on writing and recording a project with other PG'ers.
So.... have something ready to go.... could be nothing more than the idea and a verse or a chorus, PM someone you think might be interested and see what they say.
I've been turned down by numerous folks for one reason or another, and had a few bail out in the middle of the project.... but the ones that said yes and completed the project.... man, those are some good songs. I'd go through 10 "no" responses to get one that said yes and a really good song was the result. "no's" don't bother me. It's kinda like dating and marriage.... you have to find the right collaborator and everything falls into place naturally. Try to force it, and things end poorly.
Last edited by Guitarhacker; 08/02/18 03:42 AM.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112 |
Oh I have everything clear now. Thank you for your tips.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664 |
Hi EMG, very cool post and a great idea! Looking forward to see what comes out of a collaboration.
Cheers,
Joe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 825
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 825 |
It would be a good idea to have a Collaboration forum. That would be easier than sifting through the forums to see what is required.
Chris
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,441
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,441 |
This is a great idea, and I tell you why. I am a regional coordinator for the Nashville Songwriter's Association (NSAI is not just country, but all genres) and the #1 thing that the organization stresses above and beyond anything else is:
THE POWER OF COLLABORATION.In brief, most pros believe you simply will not grow and get better and stretch your limitations if you do not collaborate. Collaborators force you to get real, to work harder to make your song stronger. They bring honesty, fresh ideas, novel approaches, and things you never would have thought of. In fact, I have often heard it said that there are three rules to growing better as a songwriter: 1. Collaborate. 2. Collaborate. 3. Collaborate. Since Band-in-a-Box is the world's most awesome tool for songwriters, in my opinion at least (I couldn't live without it, seriously) it makes all the sense in the world to have a collaboration forum with some process behind it. There are SO MANY opportunities out there for film, sync licensing and on and on where some people on the forum would have a much better shot if they collaborated. As but one example, look at all the postings where they ask for a gentle song with soaring female vocals. You have the pretty song idea but you sound like a 4-pack a day Marlboro smoker. Or whatever. So many different nuances to this. Great idea. Somebody start this. (It needs some process thinking though, almost like a billboard--"I got....but I need...gonna pitch it to..interested??? P.M. me etc.) * P.S. Behind the scenes, I am right now working with Noel Adams who is a scholar when it comes to lyrics. He is coaching me and teaching me some stuff about how to up my game with lyrics to make them, stronger, more accessible and more commercial. A really great and smart guy. I am learning all kinds of things. BUT, it is HARD. You can't have much of an ego when you get down to the nitty gritty. I have re-written one thing like 20 times and keep tearing it up and starting over. Collaborators and coaches here on this forum are the greatest thing ever, but when you decide to get better it is like "no pain no gain." It hurts. Those growing exercises can bring the aches and pains. But you gotta do it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664 |
That is very insightful David, thank you so much for sharing this! Definitely something I need to consider in my own writing practices!
Cheers,
Joe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,668
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,668 |
This is a great idea, and I tell you why. I am a regional coordinator for the Nashville Songwriter's Association (NSAI is not just country, but all genres) and the #1 thing that the organization stresses above and beyond anything else is:
THE POWER OF COLLABORATION.In brief, most pros believe you simply will not grow and get better and stretch your limitations if you do not collaborate. Collaborators force you to get real, to work harder to make your song stronger. They bring honesty, fresh ideas, novel approaches, and things you never would have thought of. In fact, I have often heard it said that there are three rules to growing better as a songwriter: 1. Collaborate. 2. Collaborate. 3. Collaborate. Since Band-in-a-Box is the world's most awesome tool for songwriters, in my opinion at least (I couldn't live without it, seriously) it makes all the sense in the world to have a collaboration forum with some process behind it. There are SO MANY opportunities out there for film, sync licensing and on and on where some people on the forum would have a much better shot if they collaborated. As but one example, look at all the postings where they ask for a gentle song with soaring female vocals. You have the pretty song idea but you sound like a 4-pack a day Marlboro smoker. Or whatever. So many different nuances to this. Great idea. Somebody start this. (It needs some process thinking though, almost like a billboard--"I got....but I need...gonna pitch it to..interested??? P.M. me etc.) * P.S. Behind the scenes, I am right now working with Noel Adams who is a scholar when it comes to lyrics. He is coaching me and teaching me some stuff about how to up my game with lyrics to make them, stronger, more accessible and more commercial. A really great and smart guy. I am learning all kinds of things. BUT, it is HARD. You can't have much of an ego when you get down to the nitty gritty. I have re-written one thing like 20 times and keep tearing it up and starting over. Collaborators and coaches here on this forum are the greatest thing ever, but when you decide to get better it is like "no pain no gain." It hurts. Those growing exercises can bring the aches and pains. But you gotta do it. THIS^^^^^^
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987 |
EMG,
An important consideration when collaborating, and one that I keep forgetting... always save your .sgu and .mgu files so the other parties can use them.
I got in the bad habit of deleting those critical files after rendering to .wav or .mp3 and my collaborator has nothing to work with.
It's a good idea to save everything until the project is completed.
How would I know this?! lol
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112 |
Hi LPman mmmm...... can you explain better? I'm a little confused about your post... :-)
------------------------------------------ My music: https://soundcloud.com/ermar-gamarMy stuff: Stratocaster '89, PRS SE Santana, Digitech RP90 Multi Effect, Vocalist Live 3, Digital Piano Korg SP, Studio One 3.5, Presonus Audiobox, BB 2018
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 433
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 433 |
Hi EMG I added a layered paino improvisation to a YouTube user named meta sage. I wanted to see if was possible to add a custom piano backtrack to what he was saying ( link below ). When I listen to the 9 minutes of my piano alone I hear unresolved progression parts. So I removed it. Now I have a 5.58 minutes. But I am bored with it. I take my 5.58 minutes piano midi and feed it to BIAB with a country style eliminating my piano altogether. I mute piano 2 my piano playing cause it doesn't match anymore with the country style. So now I can develop, a new theme bass-line, and salvage the parts I like of this song, to make a new song. As a collaboration, the MGX file can be salvageable as one see's fit. I hope I explained this correctly... meta sage R Ra.mp3
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,342
Posts791,114
Members39,858
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean