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Not yet, Bob, but I consider I am still in a learning phase and still trying to find my own "sweet spot" as an artist.

BIAB is helping me with that as it is giving me the opportunity to create hundreds of worktapes with every idea that pops into my head and the ammunition for mixes on stuff I think deserves a production.

SongTradr gives me lots of ideas and impetus for taking a whack at song concepts I would not have even thought of until I looked at the wanted listings. It is not taking skin off of my back because I just keep adding stuff to my catalog. I have had quite a few "final selections" from stuff I wrote four months ago, where I saw the posting and just hit click. After a while I will be able to go click click click all day long. It costs about 20 cents to submit a song.

I don't need them for Spotify because I have my own outlets for digital and am actually doing ok on Spotify with my classical and "relaxation" stuff.

Now, is it legit? I have watched videos of the staff in their office, and their creative director or A&R lady (the one who posts opps and makes final selections, supposedly) seems legit.

But quite honestly, they are pulling some "amazing opps" from the same posting boards everyone else is--so folks have to realize EVERY licensing company is vying for the same opps, and SongTradr is just one.

Bud and Janice are lucky and blessed to be with an outfit like Crucial for their genre, but for people in super packed genres (singer-songwriter, pop, EDM, rock, film scoring) there about 2.5 million artists with home studios in the world (at least) doing what we do.

I think I got it from you Bob that about 20,000 new songs are dropped to Spotify EACH Day, like 5,000 new books are added to Kindle EACH Day.

I guarantee you that every person dropping those 20,000 Spotify songs per day is chasing sync.

So I think it is safe to roughly quesstimate that if you see a SongTradr opp and submit for it, you have 20,000 competitors coming from somewhere if is gets down to the music supervisor level.

Where does that leave us?

I can only say where it leaves me.

I just try and keep writing and mixing better songs every day and not even think about the rest of it or keeping up with the Jones.

Your brain would cave it.

I just keep hitting click and then go back to the screen to see how my new mix is coming along. It is the only way I can stay focused and happy.

Weird scenes inside the goldmine Clifton.



Hey, come to think of it, I wish they would beg for a Jim Morrison alt.

I would mojo the you know what out of them brother.

RIding Hwy 49 got shortlisted again today, it is at the music supervisor on one listing. Lots of fun this stuff. They have just posted a Gram Parson alt, I was a big Gram Parsons fan, have done several of his covers, but, really never wrote anything similiar to his style of the song they want, it is an odd song and not one of his better ones. Why would anyone want that style that knows Gram Parson songs? Oh Well CLiff

Well Bob, maybe not a lot of money being seen by us here but we're having fun making music and there is the possibility of recouping some of the expenses through licensing using Songtradr. I don't think any of us are purely in it for the money and if you are then you are in the wrong business and should just stop. We make music because we love to and if we can make a little cash off of it why not?

I'm probably one of the few people on this forum that makes a living off of playing music but very... VERY little of that comes from songwriting and recording. What little extra money I make performing usually goes right back into my art so I can get better tools and skills to get better at recording and producing. Maybe one day I'll make that next hit song or get a $50k licensing deal (which would be great) but that's not why I make music. I do it because I love it.

Congratulations on your shortlist. I'm a big fan of Gram Parsons music too. Relative to this discussion, I have written songs similar to his style and actually sold an original recording to be included in a Gram Parsons documentary. While I can't pitch that particular song, I may have another one I can.

Encouragement to the forum not to quit writing, that song collected dust for 44 years before it was 'discovered'. The record company that purchased the rights has received 6 Grammy nominations over the years. And, I've netted more in royalties from that song than the entire album it was released on grossed....