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PGM presented Video RealTracks as a big new feature for 2018 BIAB (it is still listed as the first new feature on the BIAB page.) Out of 2500+ RealTracks 40 are available as Video RealTracks.
Since 9 months have passed and we are still 3 months from a likely release of BIAB 2019, I am curious about how Video RealTracks have been received, used, ignored, etc. As a technical achievement I must say it was an impressive thing. As a practical matter I have personally yet to find a use for them. How about you?
Are Video RealTracks,
A) great and something you are using
B) great but you are not using them yet
C) unimportant or you simply have no interest in them one way or the other
If you chose A or B would you care to elaborate on how you are using Video RealTracks and why they are great?
If you chose C would you share why and maybe elaborate as to whether improvements to Video RealTracks or the availability of more of them would change your answer?
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These questions are for PGM if they would be willing to answer them,
What are your plans for Video RealTracks?
Will all RealTracks in upcoming releases have Video RealTracks or a similar percentage as 2018?
Will new Video RealTracks be added to existing RealTracks or will they only be available for new RealTracks?
Will all or even most RealTracks have Video RealTracks some day?
Will there be any technical improvements such as reducing/smoothing the abrupt movements between riffs?
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C) unimportant or you simply have no interest in them one way or the other
Further improvements or developments are unlikely to alter my opinion.
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I watched them a couple of times and have never used them again. PG Music needs to discontinue this folly and start concentrating on making the program ready to enter the 3rd decade of the 21st century. I absolutely see no use in watching a series of video pictures which really amount to a bunch of 32bit video flash cards appearing before my eyes.
Concentrate on RealStyles, not gimmicks.
I emphatically chose without hesitation: C) unimportant or you simply have no interest in them one way or the other.
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C - seems like potentially a good learning tool for those who want or need that. No interest in them here.
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C) No interest for me. I did not install them at all. What a Waste to develop this feature.
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Sorry PG, I have no practical use for them as I use BB purely as an arranging tool and not as a video maker. I dont ever intend to play what the 'performers' do so its not even a learning tool.
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But I am mindful of RealDrums then RealTracks, which no one anticipated nor requested, and they changed everything. With all the cries here for PG Music to attract new younger users, perhaps this is on a path to do that.
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But I am mindful of RealDrums then RealTracks, which no one anticipated nor requested, and they changed everything. With all the cries here for PG Music to attract new younger users, perhaps this is a on a path to do that. Interesting point. Since you were here then, do you believe that 9 months after the release of RealDrums and RealTracks a question like I posed would have 12 out of 12 (so far) responses saying the RealDrums/RealTracks feature was of no interest? I get your point but I don't see how Video RealTracks even remotely approaches the breakthrough of RealDrums/RealTracks.
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I intentionally didn't state my preference in my original post but now that we have a few responses I want to say I am most definitely,
C) unimportant or you simply have no interest in them one way or the other
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But I am mindful of RealDrums then RealTracks, which no one anticipated nor requested, and they changed everything. With all the cries here for PG Music to attract new younger users, perhaps this is a on a path to do that. Interesting point. Since you were here then, do you believe that 9 months after the release of RealDrums and RealTracks a question like I posed would have 12 out of 12 (so far) responses saying the RealDrums/RealTracks feature was of no interest? I get your point but I don't see how Video RealTracks even remotely approaches the breakthrough of RealDrums/RealTracks. Well, I voted C. But since you cited nine months, I will point out that nine months after RealDrums, we didn’t yet have (nor even imagine) RealTracks. I’m keeping an open mind that video may yet become something more, and something useful.
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But you see my point, right? It didn't take 9 months for either RealDrums or RealTracks to take off. I'm guessing they were popular almost instantly.
Another key thing to understand is RealTracks are incredibly versatile. Ten users could create ten songs using the same RealStyle and they would be very different from each other. A casual listener may not even notice similarities.
However, if those same 10 songs used Video RealTracks all 10 videos will be way too similar and, frankly, boring! Video snippets of a closeup of a guitar player's hand are not likely to pull any views on Youtube. And even if you used it once I cannot imagine using it a second time. So it really is not apples to apples to compare Video RealTracks to RealTracks/RealDrums.
Maybe if PGM would share their plans we could find some optimism. But short of that all we have is a novelty feature and a small handful of compatible tracks.
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C) unimportant or you simply have no interest in them one way or the other
PGMusic's effort would be better spent on catching up on the 'Wish List'
Making the 6/8 'workaround' more usable, there are hardly any true 6/8 RealTracks and Realdrums in even time (not swing).
Also more true RealTracks Strings
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for me it's without interest
PG music should solve the problems related to the user track and be more dedicated to the program in the field of audio / midi and realtrack good day to the whole team.
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C) unimportant or you simply have no interest in them one way or the other
Never use them. I do not need them. Realtracks and supermidis are important for me.
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and many +++++++++ on that. PLEASE use these efforts, time and investments for better use, like improving BIAB, REALBAND instead of this unnecessary crap, sorry, but IMO. F
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