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Did anyone listen to the song that sparked this? Or look at the lyrics?
See above if not.
The so called ‘versatility’ of this root word is exactly what I’m trying to draw attention to as laziness. Don’t have the time to think up a better word? No problem just use an f-bomb with whatever ending you so choose to fit your purpose.
So yes it has become versatile in application. See Hear 2 Learn’s experience above (which in a similar situation for me also sparked my thread). This use of the word as maybe seeming versatile, also seems an indication of failure of our society to encourage a wider vocabulary of its members.
Hear 2 Learn: I don’t believe my post has the power to change culture. But I have also participated I this passive acceptance of this part of the dumbing down of society. I signed my name as one way to say I’m not ok with this trend.
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Then.... there's the David Allen Coe Black albums..... look that one up at your own risk..... Now that's some naughty fun songs right there.
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Did anyone listen to the song that sparked this? Or look at the lyrics?
What song was it. I didn't see the name of the song or a link to it anywhere.
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Hear 2 Learn: I don’t believe my post has the power to change culture. But I have also participated I this passive acceptance of this part of the dumbing down of society. I signed my name as one way to say I’m not ok with this trend.
Totally cool. I just didn't want to see you set yourself up for failure. It's annoying no doubt. I have tried living a life as an example to my children and hoping that example will impact them in some way. For what it's worth, I'm glad you voice your opinion. I do feel that's very important to do.
Chad (Hope that makes it easier)
TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
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Did anyone listen to the song that sparked this? Or look at the lyrics?
What song was it. I didn't see the name of the song or a link to it anywhere. I put the link to the lyrics on page 2 Edited: went back to page 2 to grab the link and paste here https://genius.com/amp/Shannen-moser-haircut-song-lyrics
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Did anyone listen to the song that sparked this? Or look at the lyrics?
What song was it. I didn't see the name of the song or a link to it anywhere. I put the link to the lyrics on page 2 Edited: went back to page 2 to grab the link and paste here https://genius.com/amp/Shannen-moser-haircut-song-lyrics she should invest in a guitar tuner
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Did anyone listen to the song that sparked this? Or look at the lyrics?
What song was it. I didn't see the name of the song or a link to it anywhere. I put the link to the lyrics on page 2 Edited: went back to page 2 to grab the link and paste here https://genius.com/amp/Shannen-moser-haircut-song-lyrics I totally missed this the first time, so thanks for re-posting. I don't mind the song, but don't really care for it too much. I actually agree with you on this one - the swearing on this really doesn't add much. In fact, it kind of conflicts with the mood of the music. To each their own though, they say 
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I should have mentioned that I did listen to the song and read the lyrics.
I'm with you on the lyrics.
I'm with Herb on the tuning.
So...there's a few things that could be worked on.
Either just starting; or maybe doesn't care. For some people "good enough" is just that.
Chad (Hope that makes it easier)
TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
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Kind of strange lyrics for that style of music. I can see why you say it's lazy writing, but I can also see where the artist/songwriter might be very passionate about the subject and that they felt the only words that truly conveyed how they felt at that moment in that situation was "f*cked up." Been there, felt that way myself.
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I think it really depends on the rest of the writing for the lyrics. What were the rest of the lyrics like? I think it's hard to judge unless you can read all the lyrics and have a better context. At the end of the day, it's ultimately just a word. Not one I personally use in my day-to-day, but I don't think that someone is necessarily a lazy lyricist based off a single word. I'd need it in context with the rest of the lyrics before I could pass judgement, but that's just my opinion. I respect what everyone has had to offer on this conversation so far and it has been an interesting read! Link to the lyrics: https://genius.com/amp/Shannen-moser-haircut-song-lyrics In this case, I agree with your stance that the writing isn't that great here, but maybe that's just my subjective opinion.
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This song was featured on NPR’s All Songs Considered and the songwriter was gushed about as a great lyricist!
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OK time to win a few Grammy's. https://soundcloud.com/davidsfilmmusic/eff-itI just entered this in the song contest. Category: Rock Pop Style: Style is _ONETIME.STY (One Time Minimal Dancehall) By David Snyder with DB Scratchmaster and Little D Lyrics have not yet been translated and no one has any idea what the artist is saying, but maybe you can figure it out. RealTracks in style: 2967:Bass, Synth, DancehallAB Ev16 085 Loop in Style: AcousticDrumFullKit\Reggaeton - reggaeton_100e_pre1 ev16.wav RealTracks in style: 2973:Synth, Rhythm DancehallPercussive Ev16 085 RealTracks in style: 2704:Synth, Rhythm CloudRapLowOrgan Ev16 075 RealDrums in style: Dancehall^03-a:HiHt16Wd, b:HH16ClWd
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I read the lyrics first and thought “I hope the song is better”. The song was okay and I might try to listen to more of her stuff if not for that dumb word. I think using the f word here is just plain short sighted. She has just, with one word, turned off a whole section of potential listeners. My life is too short!
I am not a prude but don’t enjoy it when people use swear words in ordinary conversation either. I work in a high class financial institution and am currently sitting on the top floor with all the larneys because that is where the project users are. The language that flies around that office is like I have never heard before in my 30 plus years of working. Strangely it is the young girls who do it. I think they just don’t care who they offend. It just plain leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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Sorry I might be immature - but that was fun this Fuh King was quite amusing - I wonder how stoned they were, when they considered this to be a great thing to do on vinyl 
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Ok, I'll confess. I used it in it's full-throated glory (unlike James Taylor who slurred through it as scat on Steamroller Blues) one time in a song lyric. (Don't ask me about using it elsewhere).
My use of it fit my own criteria for it's use. It was a character song, and the character was particularly inarticulate at this point in the song.
It also fits other's criteria for use. It was the only perfect word to use (beautiful internal rhyme) and said precisely what needed to be said. Indeed, it's alternative in the vernacular would be no less crude.
It's use also fits other criticisms. I can't play this song for just anybody. I posted it on the now-defunct AcidPlanet.com. This site had a user defined content filter set by default to G-rated. A casual listener never got "beyond" that, and a registered listener had to choose to allow "naughtier" songs.
I don't know of another website that operates like that, so in order not to put off a casual listener, or cringe at the possibility of some certain family and friends stumbling across it, it's not posted anywhere.
As a consequence, the world has one less perfectly good song.
One may say that it didn't need to be written in the first place. But I don't think one can say there was a better choice of words, given that it was written.
I'll post the lyric if anybody wants to judge for themselves. I'm betting it's both better (and has a better use of the word) than the track that started this discussion. I'm certainly not ashamed of it.
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It's use also fits other criticisms. I can't play this song for just anybody. I posted it on the now-defunct AcidPlanet.com. This site had a user defined content filter set by default to G-rated. A casual listener never got "beyond" that, and a registered listener had to choose to allow "naughtier" songs.
I don't know of another website that operates like that, so in order not to put off a casual listener, or cringe at the possibility of some certain family and friends stumbling across it, it's not posted anywhere.
As a consequence, the world has one less perfectly good song.
Tangmo, The two websites I use for my music, reverbnation and soundcloud, both have check boxes where you can specify if the song you are uploading contains explicit lyrics. Both sites allow you to create a free account for uploading music. There are a few former acidplanet guys on both of those sites BTW.
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