I've waited a bit to say anything about this. It's a touchy subject when someone feels so strongly towards one side.

Scott, I totally understand where you are coming from. What it boils down to for you, I believe, is you feel people should try harder to come up with better ways of expressing themselves. To me, it seems that's asking a lot if that's not their goal.

There are a few other things to consider though. It's not always just being lazy.

One thing to consider is demographic. If I said the word "Frick" around my Mom; she would be appalled at my "potty mouth." If I said it around my kids, they would would giggle and ask me what I just said!

On that same subject, over the weekend my wife, my two youngest, and myself stopped for a quick bite to eat. A guy was on his phone and dropping F-Bombs here and there; with a few other choice words. NOT in an angry way. He was just talking. My wife and I glanced at each other for a second; but the kids didn't seem to even notice. It's not that my wife and I speak that way. It's that a lot of the rest of the world does. If it's become common in everyday conversation; it's natural that it would become common in lyrics. Which bring me to my next point.

Being relatable. That obviously is something that CAN be so important. For certain types of music or songs, to throw that word in meets an expectation for the audience or genre. I personally don't feel it's needed; but understand where others do. They feel it helps them connect with both their audience AND who they personally are. That congruency for an artist can be huge in emoting what they are trying to convey.

I have seen you comment about Beck before. Even he has a song that is titled F*****g With My Head. I'm thinking that song is saying what he wanted it to say.

So, again, I do get what you are saying. I personally have never written a song with that in the lyrics...and have no plans to. I also feel there are more creative choices; however, it's not always about the pure craft of it. I really like some songs of with ridiculously stupid lyrics. But...they make me feel great.

Anyway, I think if you feel posting this on the PG Music forum and signing your name is going to change an industry...actually society; you may be in for disappointment. Look at the average age on the forum, verses the average age of the people writing the lyrics you have issue with and I have a feeling you will see there would be a difference. You will get plenty of agreement here though.

Any shot of real change would be in you contacting every artist as you come across what you feel is lazy writing and see how what kind of reception you get. Most care about dollars over anything you have to say. Again, not everyone is in it for the craft...which I know you already know. smile

BTW, please don't take my post as against what you are saying. There are PLENTY of times when I hear songs and think "really?" wink

Chad (Hope that makes it easier)

TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.