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Trying to install 2018 UltraPAK to run from USB drive (not enough free space on main drive).

Installer fails with following:
D:\bb\Data\Util\CDRipperX.ocx
An error occurred while trying to create a file in the destination directory.
The media is write protected.

After you try to Abort the installation the installers run anyway and copy about 1GB worth of WAV stuff into "Program Files" folder.

So basically sev 1 and sev 2 defects.
How on Earth is it possible for test team at PG Music to miss those issue?

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more details please, like type USB drive, windows version .......

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Hi woland99,

The minimal installer is meant for use with the UltraPak that's purchased from PG Music on a USB drive.

With the UltraPak on the the supplied USB drive, it's ready to go once the "Minimal Install" is run to set up Windows for BIAB. The BIAB program then runs entirely from the USB drive.

Is this how you used the minimum install?

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Originally Posted By: fiddler2007
more details please, like type USB drive, windows version .......


USB drive is is BIAB UltraPAK drive - I do not know know h/w details. It sits in a Sabrent EC25 enclosure.
OS is Windows 10 Enterprise version 1803.

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Hi woland99,

The minimal installer is meant for use with the UltraPak that's purchased from PG Music on a USB drive.

With the UltraPak on the the supplied USB drive, it's ready to go once the "Minimal Install" is run to set up Windows for BIAB. The BIAB program then runs entirely from the USB drive.

Is this how you used the minimum install?

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Correct - I run Setup and chose option #1 "run from USB drive".

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Permissions problems; first think i would try is run take ownership on the folder you're addressing, LINK: take ownership , a registry tweak ...., or the easy way: download a right click registry entry here : takeownership.zip

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Note: if you do the hack just kinked by Fiddler2007, read the whole article first to see that you can do it manually, or if you go to the link at the bottom, you can download an EXE to do it for you!


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Originally Posted By: fiddler2007
Permissions problems; first think i would try is run take ownership on the folder you're addressing, LINK: take ownership , a registry tweak ...., or the easy way: download a right click registry entry here : takeownership.zip


I followed the directions and successfully added 'Take Ownership' to both file and folder menus.
Running installer now....
Got exactly same error:
Installer fails with following:
D:\bb\Data\Util\CDRipperX.ocx
An error occurred while trying to create a file in the destination directory.
The media is write protected.

OK so Abort and letsee if I can take ownership of D:\bb\Data\Util\
No I cannot same error on second run.

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OK time for the maybe stupid but obvious question ..... are you running (the installer) as administrator?

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Originally Posted By: fiddler2007
OK time for the maybe stupid but obvious question ..... are you running (the installer) as administrator?

What he said. We should have asked this first.


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Just to clarify...

...by "running as administrator", fiddler and Matt mean "did you right-click on the installer file and choose 'run as administrator'?"

This is different than logging into Windows as an administrator. The right-click "run as admin" option gives the installation file privileges that logging into Windows does not make available.

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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
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OK time for the maybe stupid but obvious question ..... are you running (the installer) as administrator?

What he said. We should have asked this first.


Yes I did (at first). I do not remember if I was running as admin after taking ownership. Will try again. BTW - PGMusic tech guy suggested ignoring the error b/c CDRipper is non essential.

I also think that there should be an option to install at location of your choice - external or internal. No just supplied USB or C:\.

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Originally Posted By: woland99
BTW - PGMusic tech guy suggested ignoring the error b/c CDRipper is non essential.


Thanks for this information. I was wondering about that because I've never once used the CD Ripper in BIAB.

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Originally Posted By: woland99

I also think that there should be an option to install at location of your choice - external or internal. No just supplied USB or C:\.

You can install BIAB on any drive you want. You can even install the program on one drive, the fonts on your boot drive, and the RealTracks and/or RealDrums on a third drive. My boot drive is drive C, the BIAB program is on drive F and my RealTracks are on drive G.

About the only place you shouldn’t install BIAB is to the /Program Files folder of your boot drive. That will cause headaches.


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Hi Woland99,

You'd actually never install onto the USB drive, the program is already there and doesn't need to be installed again.

Installation option #1 just installs notation fonts, plugins, and the Hi-Q sounds to the C drive, and doesn't install Band-in-a-Box at all (since it's already installed to the USB drive).

Installation options #2 installs the fonts, plugins, and Hi-Q sounds to the C drive, and installs Band-in-a-Box (without RealTracks) to whatever drive you like.

Installation options #3 installs the fonts, plugins, and Hi-Q sounds to the C drive, and installs Band-in-a-Box (with RealTracks) to whatever drive you like.

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Originally Posted By: woland99
BTW - PGMusic tech guy suggested ignoring the error b/c CDRipper is non essential.


Thanks for this information. I was wondering about that because I've never once used the CD Ripper in BIAB.

Noel


Unfortunately that did not help a lot - installer finished indeed but
the app cannot start for the same reason - media is write protected.
I cannot copy anything onto that drive and when it tries to set some data
files during the first run it crashes immediately:
Exception EFCreateError in module bbw.exe at 00025A9E.
Cannot create file D:\bb\Data\DrumVideosFound.txt".
The media is write protected.

I think PGMusic owes me an explanation. This is obviously a hardware issue.

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It seems that it is possible after all to install BIAB on another USB drive - I am attempting to do that now. Installation doc could have been a bit clearer. I think that should fix the problem. I assigned high letter to that drive just in case I have several devices already connected.
Same installer errors about CDRipper.ocx popped up and I ignored them.
We shall see in couple hours if installation succeeded.

SUCCESS - this time installer worked and app seems to work so far - need to
do some post-installation setup and hopefully revive my old collection BIAB
tunes.

Thanks for help and encouragement everybody!
Now onward to better musicianship (hopefully... cool)

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When you run BIAB, right-click on the shortcut and select "Run as administrator". PG Music recommend that both BIAB and Realband are run in administrator mode.

This can be set permanently by right-clicking on the startup shortcut, selecting "Properties" and then, under the "Compatibility" tab, activating "Run as administrator".

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
When you run BIAB, right-click on the shortcut and select "Run as administrator". PG Music recommend that both BIAB and Realband are run in administrator mode.

This can be set permanently by right-clicking on the startup shortcut, selecting "Properties" and then, under the "Compatibility" tab, activating "Run as administrator".

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This advice is a valuable sticky thread in Tips and Tricks, here: http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=490160#Post490160


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