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I just watched this nice video which walks you through the new VST and shows some of what it can do,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6hQ1Z9ldCU&feature=youtu.be

But I have questions and nagging concerns about how integrated the BIAB VST really is! Is it,

A) a fully functional/fully integrated VST that is deeply connected bidirectionally to my DAW?
OR
B) more of a basic one-way (VST to DAW) tool for generating BIAB WAV and MIDI that I can drag into my DAW?

To further explain what I mean by A or B...

1) after I drag my tracks to my DAW what happens when I change something in the chordsheet (chords, song length, style, etc.) and regenerate? I'm guessing the regenerate will completely regenerate every track, just like in BIAB, but will the tracks I already dragged into the DAW be updated? I suspect not so I would have to delete all of the tracks in the DAW and drag the newly generated ones?

2) what happens if I change the tempo in my DAW? I suspect the BIAB VST will detect that but I would still need to regenerate my tracks, delete the previous ones from the DAW and drag the new ones to the DAW?

3) is there any way to freeze my generated tracks in the VST? I suspect there is not since it is only a track generator intended for an immediate drag to the DAW.

4) is there any way to freeze certain bars and regenerate only certain bars? in this video it shows generating certain selected bars but what would happen if I selected certain bars in an already generated track and regenerated? would it preserve everything else in that track and only regenerate the selected bars? what about the other tracks? would it regenerate them even though I only wanted certain bars in a single track regenerated? and, at the end of this process I'd still need to delete my old tracks and drag the newly generated ones into the DAW, right?


Because the VST gets the tempo from the DAW and animates the chordsheet when the DAW is playing, I got the impression they were very connected but if my assumptions above are correct, the tempo and position in the song are the only things actually connected to my DAW with everything else being a BIAB track generator that allows dragging into my DAW.

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Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
I just watched this nice video which walks you through the new VST and shows some of what it can do,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6hQ1Z9ldCU&feature=youtu.be

But I have questions and nagging concerns about how integrated the BIAB VST really is! Is it,

A) a fully functional/fully integrated VST that is deeply connected bidirectionally to my DAW?
OR
B) more of a basic one-way (VST to DAW) tool for generating BIAB WAV and MIDI that I can drag into my DAW?

To further explain what I mean by A or B...

1) after I drag my tracks to my DAW what happens when I change something in the chordsheet (chords, song length, style, etc.) and regenerate? I'm guessing the regenerate will completely regenerate every track, just like in BIAB, but will the tracks I already dragged into the DAW be updated? I suspect not so I would have to delete all of the tracks in the DAW and drag the newly generated ones?

2) what happens if I change the tempo in my DAW? I suspect the BIAB VST will detect that but I would still need to regenerate my tracks, delete the previous ones from the DAW and drag the new ones to the DAW?

3) is there any way to freeze my generated tracks in the VST? I suspect there is not since it is only a track generator intended for an immediate drag to the DAW.

4) is there any way to freeze certain bars and regenerate only certain bars? in this video it shows generating certain selected bars but what would happen if I selected certain bars in an already generated track and regenerated? would it preserve everything else in that track and only regenerate the selected bars? what about the other tracks? would it regenerate them even though I only wanted certain bars in a single track regenerated? and, at the end of this process I'd still need to delete my old tracks and drag the newly generated ones into the DAW, right?


Because the VST gets the tempo from the DAW and animates the chordsheet when the DAW is playing, I got the impression they were very connected but if my assumptions above are correct, the tempo and position in the song are the only things actually connected to my DAW with everything else being a BIAB track generator that allows dragging into my DAW.


1. Correct you would have to delete the old tracks and drag the new over.

2. It only gets the Host tempo when you first open the VST. If you change the tempo in the DAW you will have to change it in the plugin.

3. Nope not that I have seen.

4. You are correct about the tempo and the song position.

So far the multi riff function of the VST is the most useful to me. We really need to be able to hear the RT's in the style picker when in the DAW using ASIO. I can listen to listen to loop and wav files in the SOP browser while working in my DAW so I know it can be done. I keep my BIAB set for MME drivers. I know there are work arounds but....

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[quote=JohnJohnJohn] .... 2. It only gets the Host tempo when you first open the VST. If you change the tempo in the DAW you will have to change it in the plugin. Brian
That's a pity, i like to use gradual tempo changes in Cubase to liven up for a more live feel .... F

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Originally Posted By: Brian Hughes
...So far the multi riff function of the VST is the most useful to me. We really need to be able to hear the RT's in the style picker when in the DAW using ASIO. I can listen to listen to loop and wav files in the SOP browser while working in my DAW so I know it can be done. I keep my BIAB set for MME drivers. I know there are work arounds but....

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If your ASIO is Always On in the DAW the Windows Media Player won't play the Demos, you can use VoiceMeeter : Full Screen


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