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Hello,
is there any known limitations about using the Steinberg YAMAHA USB ASIO driver in BIAB 2009?
When I select it in "Audio Settings" I receive the following errors:
""YAMAHA STEINBERG USB ASIO" ASIO driver is not connected, so audio output will be silent" (the first time I select the driver in the menu)
from then on when I select the Steinberg driver I receive directly the message "GetChannels failed".
All my music programs (notation, DAW etc.) are working fine with this driver.
Any suggestion?
Thanks.
Stefano
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Hi Stefano,
Welcome to the forums.
If the ASIO driver is relatively new compared to your 10 year old version of BIAB, it's possible that there could be issues. Are your other programs that work with this driver as old as your version of BIAB?
ASIO is highly individual when it comes to drivers and what works in one case does not always work in another case. Because of this, it would be difficult for BIAB developers to write program code in 2009 that can anticipate what might be happening in 2019.
Do you need to use ASIO with BIAB? If not, use MME as your audio driver. MME will work with stability (the output sound will be identical). (It's what I use and have been doing so since 2006.)
The advantage of ASIO relates to reducing lag time for recording and for synch'ing an external instrument to the program. If neither of these situations apply to you then there is no need for you to use ASIO.
ASIO4ALL is a freeware driver that imitates ASIO and works comfortably with BIAB. If you need ASIO, this would be worth trying.
Hope this helps,
Noel
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I'm having the same problem.
I'm currently using the Yamaha Steinberg driver 1.30.3 to use with my Steinberg UR22 Audio Interface. Band in a box v2019 intermittently displays the warning 'YAMAHA STEINBERG USB ASIO" ASIO driver is not connected' and no audio is produced.
This is becoming very annoying when using BIAB, I don't know if its the driver at fault or BIAB, as the OP said all other programs like Cubase etc. have no problems with this driver.
Glen
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Stefano, just checking, do you have BIAB 2009, or was that a typo?
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Hello,
I'm having the same problem with my Yamaha steinberg UR242,??????
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I'm also using that. Thanks for the warning. I will not update before that has been fixed.
Will
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Latest version is indeed Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver 1.10.3, (Mac: Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver 1.10.2) Supported hardware: CI1, CI2, CI2+, UR12, UR22, UR22mkII, UR28M, UR242, UR44, UR824, UR-RT2, UR-RT4 Maybe try an older version? Yamaha Steinberg USB drivers F
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Sorry  You're right it was a typo...it's 2019 just bought!
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Thanks,
sorry it was a typo, I've got the 2019 version.
What I've described happens with bbw.exe (32 bit) version. However if a try to use ASIO4ALL I'm able to use the audio interface embedded in my MOX8 YAMAHA keyboard.
With the 64 version of bbw64 (bb64.exe), in addition to forementioned errors my audio interface it is not visible at all and I can use only the WAS or MME audio driver.
Do you think it's an expected behaviour?
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Hello all, in realband the asio driver of my steinberg UR242 works very well in 16 bits or 32 bits, we can even adjust these parameters, I think that the problem comes from the frequency of sampling that BIAB 2019 refuses to take in count, in BIAB 2019 my asio is 44.1kz, 32 bits, I can not set it on 16 bits, the problem may be from this setting
sorry for my english because I use a translator
cordially
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Alain, I’m not at a PC but I would like to double-check your last thought about not being able to change the sample rate. Yes, I think 32-bit is a problem.
Even if you can’t get to it in Steinberg software, did you try this? In BIAB, Preferences, Audio, make sure to set driver to ASIO, then click on the button under it which says something like ASIO Control Panel. This should allow you to select 16-bit.
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Ok,
I've asked (and received) for a refund for BIAB 2019 and reinstalled BIAB 2017.
BIAB 2017 works fine without any problem with the Yamaha Steinberg USB driver.
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I have the same exact problem using the ASIO driver for my Steinberg UR22. In fact, I just installed an updated driver two days ago to troubleshoot another issue I was having with BIAB. Currently, I have to use the MME setting to get it to work, but it doesn't matter to me as long as I can hear it produce music.
I'm hoping for a fix, soon, as well, but these initial bugs take time to figure out. There is no way that software engineers can predict how their programs will work on every possible combination of computer and audio interface, etc. Not that I don't get impatient, just like everyone else! But the few times I have spoken with someone from PG Music on a technical issue, they were all very knowledgeable and helpful.
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Hello Fiddler2007!
I don't know about the others who've had this problem, but I have already installed the 608 update, and these ASIO difficulties still persist.
I'm not sure but what it may also be why clicking on the mixer or soloing a track will cause the whole song to momentarily stop, then resume.
That is a problem that I have and I've heard others mention it as well. I have reported both of these issues to one of the PC Music technical staff. So we're probably going to have another update in the works, shortly, I hope.
Unfortunately, for me, it pretty well makes BIAB unusable at the present time.
Jim
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Well, on a laptop you have probably a limited amount of USB controllers ... i invested a year ago on a Sonnet Allegro 4 controller card since i had occasional USB problems with an RME UFXii. Never regretted it. BTW you could remove old remaining USB drivers with USBdeview, a handy tool ..... there's also a heap of settings regarding USB to consider, search here and you'll find some to check. F
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Fiddler2007,
I guess I didn't explain things very well. Sorry.
I'm not having trouble with any USB ports OR my Steinberg UR22. It works fine with all other audio software, like Cakewalk, Acid Pro 8, Reaper, etc. Gives me great sound for videos on YouTube and Vimeo.
The problem is that BIAB 2019 refuses to connect to the ASIO driver for Steinberg. (BTW, it also refuses to connect to the ASIO driver for a Behringer UMC404HD audio interface... which works fine on all my other audio apps as well.)
This is true for both 32 bit and 64 bit versions. So that's why I have to use the MME driver. And it is also why I speculated that the ASIO problem was related to the other problems of the sound cutting out when clicking on the mixer or other areas of the program. (I could be totally wrong on this...it's just a guess. But it would be great if 2 problems could be solved with one solution! lol)
Anyway, I'm hoping that Kent or Blake or someone whom I've spoken to is working on these issues. I'm sure someone is.
Thanks!
Jim
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Well, i worked with 2018 until 607 came out, mainly for audio issues like vague distortion on transpose and inability to import a second chunk of pure natural 44.1 16kHz cheese .... Voicemeeter banana i tried once, worked ok but too much latency. As i guess you need the Yamaha USB driver then, latest: Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver 1.10.3 Old UR22 driver: V1.7.1, UR22 Mk2: V1.9.4: older UR22 drivers There were 2 versions of 1.9.4, 32bit and 64 bit: 1.9.4 PDF Any chances of trying older versions or even another USB brand interface for a while? Are there any UR22 users on this forum? Also check this out, as there seem to be a few UR22 versions: UR series forum PM Ed Doll, helpful guy with some issues with Steinberg's older software licensing and a hardware problem regarding an old Nuendo (RMR) TDIF interface. F
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I'm having the same problems with a Roland UA25-EX - this was sine with BIAB 2017 but not working with ASIO in 2019.
Regards
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Fiddler2007,
I do have the latest Yamaha/Steinberg driver 1.10.3, and I have also tried a different brand of interface (Behringer) as I mentioned in my last post. I have NO problems using these with anything other than BIAB, so I'm pretty sure that's where the problem is.
Jim
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